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binge
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Insurance - rediculous Reply with quote

The next bike I buy, I'm not even going to bother insuring it. Rolling Eyes

Just rang up to cancel the B12 insurance as It's £40 a month I could do without spending to insure a VIN plate which is sat in my bedside cabinate.

They wanted £141.70 off me to cancel it!!! The policy is only £320!
1 month in. Granted, I was paying monthly.

In future, I wont be legit with companies like this, I'll simply cancel the direct debit. Fucking robbing c*nts.
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: Insurance - rediculous Reply with quote

binge wrote:
In future, I wont be legit with companies like this, I'll simply cancel the direct debit. Fucking robbing c*nts.


Don't , as you are in effect defaulting on a loan by cancelling the dd.

Buy your policies in one go if they are that cheap - monthly payment is never in your favour - you have committed to buy a year's insurance, and committed into a loan agreement. Both of which will cost to get out of, as you have found out.
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's annoying how nobody provides monthly insurance.

You'd think somebody would.
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

loply wrote:
It's annoying how nobody provides monthly insurance.

You'd think somebody would.


Doesn't eBike do a pay as you go policy?
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PostPosted: 14:18 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: Insurance - rediculous Reply with quote

binge wrote:
They wanted £141.70 off me to cancel it!!!

They being the finance company rather than insurance company.
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had something like this happen to me a few years back. Now I will always ask about cancellation fees.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had problems with it before aswell. My insurance was about 400 quid a year, was paying monthly after a while I realised that the payment I made upfront and the subsequent payments after added up to about £600. I had months and months of payments to make after that aswell. So I cancelled it to be given a huge fee to do that. It was a load of shit. More crap happened after that and it's a long story.
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i bought my insurance outright for the year. it does work out cheaper that way.

the way the companies work is:

they offer you insurance at one price for the year. the total they give for paying monthly is always more than the origional price. this is because they take out a loan in your name to pay for their insurance policy so in effect your monthly payments are going to the loan company that covered your insurance policy.

you pay interest on your monthly repayments.

the chances are that the money you are being charged for cancelling is the interest the finance company charge for granting monthly repayments
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: Insurance - rediculous Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
binge wrote:
They wanted £141.70 off me to cancel it!!!

They being the finance company rather than insurance company.


Insurance companies milk you too!!

I paid all premium in full (no finance company involved). Cancellation fee £75. It's eBike Insurance btw. My premium was roughly £320. I cancelled 4 months before the end, so I'm expecting £41 from them.. They say they have 30 days to send a cheque to me. Almost four weeks have passed and still nothing. So I'm waiting.

But I won't be using them anymore.
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing is, I was offered it under the impression that it was like a monthly insurance plan.

Basically my NCB is tied up on my Pit bike Insurance, which I wasnt able to transfer to the B12 as it was a Scooter policy.
So I was suggested to take out cover like this, Until September when the pit bike runs out, then cancel policy, and re-open with my NCB, and save like £180 on my Insurance.

Things got a little confused, and I wasnt made aware that it was a Loan company that was doing it, It was made out to me like it was the insurance lending me the money.

The fact I was told "As your a loyal / existing customer to us, we can offer you this service with no up front deposit".

When I questioned this today, I was simply told I should of read the small print within the "Cooling off period".

Just love the way everyone is out to get money off of you!



D O G, If I could afford to insure it upfront, I would. But I simply couldnt. Hence the reason I bought a £900 Bandit, and not a £3000 GSXR.
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A company insured me over 2 years ago on a bike. The policy auto renews, and once it has done so the cancellation fee is ALWAYS more than the cost of the policy for the whole year. So it's still running over a year after i sold the bike.... Fuckers.
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

binge wrote:
D O G, If I could afford to insure it upfront, I would. But I simply couldnt. Hence the reason I bought a £900 Bandit, and not a £3000 GSXR.


I hear you, I wasn't having a pop, I've done it myself in the past. From now on tho, I never pay for insurance on the monthly option - it is guarenteed to be bad in the long run.
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
A company insured me over 2 years ago on a bike. The policy auto renews, and once it has done so the cancellation fee is ALWAYS more than the cost of the policy for the whole year. So it's still running over a year after i sold the bike.... Fuckers.


Well.. Their right to renew policies automatically is printed on most of insurance policies these days (not in small print). I decided to opt out of my car insurance automatic renewal process by ringing them a few days ago. I have to insure my car by next month, but if I want to stay with them, now I have to tell them Wink
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just asked adrian flux to swap my bandit 1200 policy to an sv650 and it amused me.....

bandit policy was £150 6 months ago.
AF wanted £95 to swap the policy to the SV650 so i told them that i could buy a new policy for that.
AF then said if i started the policy again they would not charge a cancellation fee and the refund the remaining policy cost that i was owed, which was £50, and this could be taken off the next policy cost which they quoted as £85 a year TPFT!! so in the end i paid £35 and have a full years policy again. the only downside is that i didnt get the years NCB but at £85 for the year who needs NCB!

i guess that they did it this way so i have to stay insured through them.
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The expensive cancelation fees are what comes with cheap policies (unfortunately). It will be worth checking next time what they cancel fees are etc. But I guess when you start the policy you don't think you are going to cancel it early Thinking
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: Insurance - rediculous Reply with quote

binge wrote:

Just rang up to change the B12 insurance as I have heavily modified it. They could no longer insure it with the custom paintjob and turbo fitted. They cancelled the policy with immediate effect.


Just for next time Wink
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats a shocking cancellation fee!

Just to add fuel to the fire, go pick up a local paper and have a look at the courts section for 'driving without insurance'. We had a handful this week. One guy got a £120 fine, another got a £250 fine. I paid £340 for the RSV and £300 for my car.

I must be a frickin mug to obey the law Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just shudder when reading some of these posts.....

Don't pople realise that they should read the paperwork they are sent.....

Everything is clearly explained and all interest payments and % rates are shown as well as any charges for changes, admin fee's for cancelations and any rebates and the % given per month.....
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: Insurance - rediculous Reply with quote

Kwaks wrote:
binge wrote:

Just rang up to change the B12 insurance as I have heavily modified it. They could no longer insure it with the custom paintjob and turbo fitted. They cancelled the policy with immediate effect.


Just for next time Wink


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PostPosted: 20:32 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fucking daylight robbery Shocked Thumbs Down

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PostPosted: 20:38 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
I just shudder when reading some of these posts.....

Don't pople realise that they should read the paperwork they are sent.....

Everything is clearly explained and all interest payments and % rates are shown as well as any charges for changes, admin fee's for cancelations and any rebates and the % given per month.....


Yeah but if they sent you a piece of paper saying that they could come round on any given bank holiday and club your elderly grandmother over the head should you cancel, it makes it nevertheless difficult to swallow and no more morally justified.

Simply 'because its the way' is not enough in these cases, they take the piss to the highest degree and get away with it every time.
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Simply 'because its the way' is not enough in these cases, they take the piss to the highest degree and get away with it every time.

Insurance companies are businesses with the aim of making money, their first duty is to their share holders and investors rather than to customers who can't be bothered to read the paperwork.

There's so many variables that you have to check the details of a policy otherwise you're going to be agreeing to t&c that could end up costing you a small fortune.
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PostPosted: 21:13 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I completely agree, but theres so many that do it you may end up having to accept such terms or pay disproportionately higher insurance. Insurance is a legal requirement, these people with their investors are making money from that and there should be some legislation that protects the user from such devious acts.

Also, if you have a 12 month contract with them. You have a £300 premium paid off monthly at a rate of £80 deposit and 11 payments of £20 for example. Should your client decide after six months and giving you more than half the premium decide that they dont want it anymore then you have made £180 for a certificate, a phone call, a letter and a database. That client is no longer a risk and wont go on to crash in the 7th month and cost you £15k. Not bad work really. Especially considering that you overcharge pretty much anyone, can get away with discrimination on a huge level and worm out of your obligations for the slightest of things, I think the way they charge for cancellation is pretty shitty to say the least.
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:
I think the way they charge for cancellation is pretty shitty to say the least.

Rolling Eyes Not all companies do.

You can quite easily get a policy where you won't be charged for a cancellation fee, or for simple mid policy changes or other things that would often attract a £25 admin charge. But those policies cost more in the first place so are only worth having if you're likely to be making lots of mid policy changes.

Check the details of policies and you can get what's appropriate for you at the best price. If you don't check the details and just buy from whoever gave the cheaper quote then it may well end up not being the cheapest option because the only reason that company was able to offer cheap quotes is because they charge £25 admin fees for everything they can.
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 05 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: Insurance - rediculous Reply with quote

D O G wrote:


'Have you ever had motor insurance declied or cancelled?'


"Yes"

'Bend over...'


Isn't the intention of the question. Risks which fall outside of normal underwriting strategy don't mark you as having insurance declined/cancelled/refused - it's not material to the insurer to know this information.
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