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PostPosted: 22:01 - 06 Aug 2010    Post subject: BCF Book Club. Reply with quote

Anybody here read many books?

I never used to do much reading but due to long traveling that I have to do and trying to break up the tedium and work during the night, I've started to read through a few books over the last few months.
I like a good military adventure (true life or fiction) and have a general interest in engineering and such like.

Last few books I've read were:

The Hockey Stick Illusion (A.W. Montford).
It chronicals the effort of Steve McIntyre as he tries to investigate the methodology behind one of the most iconic graphs behind Global Warming, the Hockey Stick.
Considering the complexity and amount of detail used to describe the statistical side of it I found it very easy to follow. I found it quite a bit of a page turner and very hard to put down. Think I finished it within a week or so.
I'd say if you are interested in global warming, sceptical or alarmist, then this book will almost certainly open your eyes.
10/10


Bloody Heroes (Damien Lewis)
excellent read on the British Special Forces (mainly SBS) at the very start of the Afgan War. It also interestingly gives a view from the side of a fighter that is part of the insurgency, good to see both sides of the coin.
Starting in the mountains of Afganistan I got to see the sheer indurance that these guys can put up with, then it all end with the 8 day battle at the Qala-I-Janghi Fort where that CIA agen was killed by the prisoners.
8/10


The Wind Farm Scam (John Etherington)
I always knew that Wind "Turbines" were woefully inefficient, considering that the wind doesnt blow all the time. Being an electrician who works with "small" (1.7MW) generation equipment I understand the importance of being able to provide a steady reliable output, something which fundamentally wind cannont.
So why are hundreds of these inefficient machines being erected with the whole hearted backing of enviromentalists, who would be chained to a tree or in a tunnel at the mere mention of a new motorway but yet back monsters that are hundreds of feet high, blight the landscape and destroy the local land. No to mention the amount of birds that they kill world wide (yet the RSPB backs them).
The answer as this book points out (along with the explanation of just how crap these things are) is billions of $'s of subsidies (up to 100%) given to fling them up. Add in the bending of planning regulation, hidden costs to me and you and the whole thing is a fucking scam.
It reads ok but there could have been so much more in here.
7.5/10


I'm currently reading The Rational Optimist (Matt Ridley)
So far quite an intensive read but I'm getting through it. Not something I would usually pick up but it did appeal to me as I'm of the same thinking that "dont worry, it'll work it's self out" Laughing


Books I'm planning to get:

"Power Hungry" and "When Will the lights go out" something that I think will follow on nicely from "The Wind Farm Scam".

"The Secret State" and "GCHQ" I like to read about how the countrys leadership and services perform during wars. Like a true life spy thriller I suppose.


Any books that you would recommend?
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 06 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have far too many books, 2 bookshelves full, a wardrobe stacked full, and the rest hold the bed up. Ohh and theres a box or two on top of the wardrobe aswell lol. I don't look like much of a book reader lol. Can't really recommend any at the moment off the top of my head. A classic though is The Great Gatsby. Not my usual cup of tea but my GF is an English/Drama student and It was kicking about. Will have a butchers at my shelves and shit and post back mate.
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PostPosted: 22:11 - 06 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am currently reading a book which was thrust upon me as a good read, and I was very reluctant as it is a very thick paperback. And it's fiction.

Anyway, I gave it a go, and I am currently half way through the final chapter!!! I've found it really good.

Its called Dark Fire, by CJ Sansom. It's set in 1500's Tudor times, London. It's very descriptive, uses many old terms, historic, describes London and London life in the times of the Tudor so well you can almost imagine being there. The English is contemporary, so you aren't falling over English which doesn't roll off the tongue (so to speak).

It's a thriller, sort of detective type, but is not overworked. Has kept my interest. I have been reading it before work, at work (during lunch) and every single evening (I honestly cannot remember a time when I have been so eager to find out what happens next in a book!)
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 06 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love reading, but it depends on how I feel as to whether I can concentrate on something intellectual or go the more escapism route.

A book I enjoyed recently was The Other Hand by Chris Cleve. I'm now working my way through the Larsson trilogy before watching the DVD/films.

I will keep the details of the books you've read though, WK as my bro loves military books and I could do with broadening my choices a tad! Thumbs Up

Carl_Steveo I used to keep all my paperback books, but these days I pass them on as a kind of karma thing. I never seemed to read them again as once I know what's happened I've no desire to re-read unless it's a reference style book.

I know I could sell them on, but I think giving recommended and enjoyed books is a much nicer thing to do!
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 06 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm working my way through the Colin Forbes books in no particular order, currently reading Whirlpool.

i enjoyed the Dan brown books and will read those again sometime.
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PostPosted: 22:32 - 06 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tonka wrote:

Carl_Steveo I used to keep all my paperback books, but these days I pass them on as a kind of karma thing. I never seemed to read them again as once I know what's happened I've no desire to re-read unless it's a reference style book.


I can't seem to throw/give them away, thats my problem with stuff like this, I hoard really badly. I have kept all the copys of magazines I have ever bought lol. I should pass them on, I saw something about an author leaving one of their books on public transport. The idea was somebody found it, emailed him to say they had it, they read it and left it on public transport when they finished it. It passed on and on and on and he had a record of where it had been. I might start doing this. Saying that around here a chav would find it and use the cover to make roachs for joints.
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 06 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

"As Used On The Famous Nelson Mandela" by Mark Thomas

I read this a few years back and was reminded of it today when I saw the news story about the tazer.

Its a fantastic book about the 'ethical foreign policy' of previous governments and the arms industry in the UK. Its funny and informative. He explains how he sneaked into an arms fair and posed as a PR man for the arms industry. He stitches them up good and proper! He also discusses the export of arms to embargoed countries and the sale of torture equipment across the world and even in the UK.

I've made it sound a bit dry but Mark Thomas is an expert at making serious issues extremely funny!
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 06 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im not a book reader at all.
But when I was training for the Fire Service I was told to read the book called 'Red Watch' by Gordon, Honeycombe.

story of the London firemen who fought a fatal blaze at the Worsley Hotel, Maida Vale, London on December 13th 1974.
Its the one and only book I have read from start to finish.
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 06 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always say this when one of these threads come up, but one of my favorite books of all time is Shantaram by Gregory David Roberts.

It's partially based on true events in his life and partially fictional.




I had written out a long description of the story but it doesn't do it justice so here is what wiki says, Contains many spoilers!





wikipedia wrote:
Shantaram is a novel influenced by real events in the life of the author, Australian Gregory David Roberts. In 1978, Roberts was sentenced to nineteen years' imprisonment in Australia after being convicted of a series of armed robberies of building society branches, credit unions, and shops, which he had committed to feed a heroin addiction after his marriage ended and he lost his daughter. In July 1980, he escaped from Victoria’s Pentridge Prison in broad daylight, thereby becoming one of Australia's most wanted men for the next ten years.

The protagonist arrives in Bombay carrying a false passport in the name of Lindsay Ford. Mumbai was only a stopover on a journey that was to take Lin from New Zealand to Germany, but he decides to stay in the city. Lin soon meets a local man named Prabaker, whom he hires as a guide but soon becomes his best friend and who renames him Linbaba. Both men visit Prabaker's native village, Sunder, where Prabaker's mother christens Lin with the name Shantaram, meaning Man of God's Peace. On their way back to Bombay and after a night out, Lin and Prabaker are robbed. With all his possessions gone, Lin is forced to live in the slums, giving him shelter from the authorities and free rent in Bombay. After a massive fire on the day of his arrival in the slum, he sets up a free health clinic as a way to contribute to the community. He learns about the local culture and customs in this crammed environment, gets to know and love the people he encounters, and even becomes fluent in Marathi, the local language. He also witnesses and battles outbreaks of cholera and firestorms, becomes involved in trading with the lepers, and experiences how ethnic and marital conflicts are resolved in this densely crowded and diverse community.

The novel describes a number of foreigners of varied origin as well as local Indians, highlighting the rich diversity of life in Bombay. Lin falls in love with Karla, a Swiss-American woman who refuses to love him back, befriends local artists and actors landing him roles as an extra in several Bollywood movies, and is recruited by the Mumbai underworld for various criminal operations, including drug and weapons trade. Lin eventually lands in Bombay's Arthur Road Prison, where he endures many beatings and other physical and mental abuse by guards, while existing under extremely squalid conditions, along with hundreds of other inmates. However, thanks to the protection of Afghani mafia don "Abdel Khader Khan", Lin is eventually released, and works in black market currency exchange and passport forgery. Having travelled as far as Africa on trips commissioned by the mafia, Lin later goes to Afghanistan to smuggle weapons for mujahideen freedom fighters in Afghanistan. When his mentor Khan is killed, Lin realizes he became everything he grew to loathe and falls into depression after he returns. He decides that he must fight for what he believes is right, and build an honest life. The story ends with him planning to go to Sri Lanka which lays the premise for the sequel to this book.





This still hasn't done the story much justice but it is definitely in my top 5 books of all time, to be honest it is probably number 1.

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PostPosted: 23:22 - 06 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since having to commute (2 weeks ago) by train I started my first book. Charles Bronson.

https://www.inthenews.co.uk/photo/a-reissue-of-bronson-by-charles-bronson-$7021311$300.jpg

Bloody good and going to look for more on him, it's an interesting read.
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 06 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jefr0 wrote:
Since having to commute (2 weeks ago) by train I started my first book. Charles Bronson.

https://www.inthenews.co.uk/photo/a-reissue-of-bronson-by-charles-bronson-$7021311$300.jpg

Bloody good and going to look for more on him, it's an interesting read.

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PostPosted: 23:59 - 06 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jefr0 wrote:
Since having to commute (2 weeks ago) by train I started my first book. Charles Bronson.

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Bloody good and going to look for more on him, it's an interesting read.


Please tell me you are joking.... Sorry but that book is utter shite, I really struggles to finish it. I'll save you wasting the rest of your time, the book takes this format: put in solitary, did some pressups, got out of solitary, climbed on roof, back in solitary, slotted in some pressups, got out of solitary, punched someone, back in solitary, managed to get some pressups in whilst there, got out of solitary, behaved for a bit, held a prison guard hostage, back in solitary where I was happy to be able to get some pressups in.....

Print that over a couple hundred pages and there you have it.

I was reading 'Chaos' by James Gleick regarding chaos theory and a sorts of lovely physics stuf but it's a bit much for my liking so it's in the back burner for now, haven't found anything else to read in the meantime as of yet.

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PostPosted: 00:02 - 07 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like light science reading.

Richard Fortey - Earth

https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512XBD3GDBL._SS500_.jpg

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Earth-Intimate-History-Richard-Fortey/dp/0006551378

Brian Green - Fabric of the cosmos

https://www.penguin.com.au/jpg-large/9780141011110.jpg

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fabric-Cosmos-Texture-Reality-Penguin/dp/0141011114/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1281135622&sr=1-1

Bill Bryson - History of nearly everything

https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51BTXCDCQPL._SS500_.jpg

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Short-History-Nearly-Everything/dp/0552997048/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1281135693&sr=1-1


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PostPosted: 00:06 - 07 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short history of nearly everything would definitely also be in my top 5.

I also read a book a while back about a Child who gets stuck on a lifeboat with a tiger, I can't remember the name though, I think it was called pi or something like that Confused Was a very good (if slightly weird) read though!
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PostPosted: 00:31 - 07 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nai wrote:


I think thats on my wish list on Amazon, love books like that Thumbs Up


Tonka wrote:

I will keep the details of the books you've read though, WK as my bro loves military books and I could do with broadening my choices a tad! Thumbs Up


Well "Bloody Heroes" is a fantastic read the other one by Damien Lewis is "Operation Certain Death" which tells the story of Operation Barras in Sierra Leone to free the captured British Soldiers.
Another military one I read was "Sniper One" it was a bit meh TBH. Still quite interesting seeing the skill of the sharp shooters put to good use as the use a .50 Barret to blow up a car for fun Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:32 - 07 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wishay, I think you would appreciate The Cheviot, The Stag, and the Black, Black Oil by Johh McGrath. Although if you're like me, you'll just get pissed off at the injustice in the world!
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PostPosted: 01:03 - 07 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hazylogic wrote:
Wishay, I think you would appreciate The Cheviot, The Stag, and the Black, Black Oil by Johh McGrath. Although if you're like me, you'll just get pissed off at the injustice in the world!


Cheers looks like an excellent read.


A book I read a while ago was Don't Tell Mum I Work on the Rigs: (She Thinks I'm a Piano Player in a Whorehouse)

https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/512ZEN5NMDL._SL500_AA300_.jpg


Christ on a bike that was essentially what work in the North Sea was like. I've got and heard so many stories out there (and now even more outrageous ones here in the Far East) I wish I could write a book.
Might give his other book "This is not a Drill" a read at some point in the future.
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PostPosted: 01:11 - 07 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love reading, but I don't think I've proper sat down and read a book for at least 4 months now.

These days I have to read at arms length, or with my glasses perched at the end of my nose. I always end up falling asleep.

I went to visit some pagany naturisty witchy type mates a few months ago, and they gave me three boxes of books that were surplus to requirements but they couldn't bear to throw away.

I still haven't built my bookshelf so I can put the books away, so the books are still in three boxes in my living room "library corner" ... but there's all sorts of interesting things in there. I was gonna unpack them and just stack them up willy nilly all over the place, but I figured I ought to look a bit "tidier" Shifty Laughing

I just need a comfy chair for my library corner, and a table to put my coffee and my feet on...
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WishayKillie wrote:


I read that about two years ago ... its most excellent Cool Thumbs Up
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c_dug wrote:
I also read a book a while back about a Child who gets stuck on a lifeboat with a tiger, I can't remember the name though, I think it was called pi or something like that Confused Was a very good (if slightly weird) read though!


You can't tempt us with descriptions like that, and then not tell us what it was called Shocked
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A ripping tail that will have you on the edge of your seat from start to finish. This spellbinding tail has a feel of mystery to it not unlike a dan brown novel with the addition of freudian undertones. It was a little long for my tastes and seemed to lose its way around page 4, but towards the end it completely redeems itself with an unexpected plot twist. 9/10
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PostPosted: 01:30 - 07 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
c_dug wrote:
I also read a book a while back about a Child who gets stuck on a lifeboat with a tiger, I can't remember the name though, I think it was called pi or something like that Confused Was a very good (if slightly weird) read though!


You can't tempt us with descriptions like that, and then not tell us what it was called Shocked

The Life of Pi, a most excellent read.

https://www.reviewsofbooks.com/life_of_pi/review/
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Last week I finished Robert Harris's Lustrum, another excellent read.

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Rome, 63 BC. In a city on the brink of acquiring a vast empire, seven men are struggling for power. Cicero is consul, Caesar his ruthless young rival, Pompey the republic's greatest general, Crassus its richest man, Cato a political fanatic, Catilina a psychopath, and Clodius an ambitious playboy. The stories of these real historical figures - their alliances and betrayals, their cruelties and seductions, their brilliance and their crimes - are all interleaved to form this epic novel. Its narrator is Tiro, a slave who serves as confidential secretary to the wily, humane, complex Cicero. He knows all his master's secrets - a dangerous position to be in. From the discovery of a child's mutilated body, through judicial execution and a scandalous trial, to the brutal unleashing of the Roman mob, "Lustrum" is a study in the timeless enticements and horrors of power.
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Is it sad to want to read something by Plato just so I can say I have? Laughing

I swear every smart (pompus) sounding person has "read the works of plato"
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PostPosted: 02:11 - 07 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
Is it sad to want to read something by Plato just so I can say I have? Laughing

I swear every smart (pompus) sounding person has "read the works of plato"

You mean you haven't read 'The Republic'? Shocked
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