Moving from 125cc to 600cc - points to consider?

[weegieblue]

I'm currently tootling about on my EN125-2A which is brilliant for commuting my 20 miles a day on - £10 to fill up and I'm getting somewhere in the region of 200 miles out of a tank, £15 for tax, £160 for fully comp insurance on my CBT with zero no claims.

I'm going through DAS at the moment with Mod 1 likely to be next week, and I'm likely to be getting a Fazer 600 as my first big bike.

What can I expect from it in comparison to my 125? I've read bits and pieces about people keeping their 125's for work and having their 600+'s for the more fun stuff, but in reality, I have neither the space nor the cash for keeping two bikes, and the wife would be far from amused.

I know it's a bit of a random question as there are so many variables, but if you have any advice, tips or opinions I'd be glad to hear them.

Cheers

WB
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[EUMP]

Plan to do the same thing lol
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[pinkyfloyd]

i went from a 125 cruiser straight on to a gsxr750. only pointer i can offer is simply....... take it fucking easy.

the bike will be faster, more powerfull and untill you get used to that just take it really easy on the bigger bike
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Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[N cee thirty]

i was on a cg,also got a fazer

there easy to handle aslong as you keep it below 5k and don't whip the throttle back
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[weegieblue]

I understand there'll be a big difference in power, but I was more interested in finding out about the other differences, such as running costs, practicality of the bike compared to the 125 etc.

More than happy with a bit extra power


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[jdm]

I never rode smaller bike, went straight for DAS and bought Yamaha Thundercat 600, i use it for everything, and does it all well, commuting, pootling below 6000rev, and great fun on blast and different bike over 6000revs, pretty good on fuel, full tank approx. £20 will get me on average 180 miles, sound for all types of travel as would imagine the fazer is.
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[pinkyfloyd]

think about it this way. your buying a bike thats bigger in pretty much every way.

the petrol tank will hold more petrol and because the engine is bigger you wont be getting as far between refills.

the tyres will be bigger,

when something breaks it will be more expensive to fix unless its consumables which are around the same price regardles (light bulbs, fuses, cables)

tax will cost more

insurance will cost more

its fucking expensive going from a 125 to a bigger bike.

but this is the price you pay.
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illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[picklesjn]

[pinkyfloyd]

oh yes.... I'd never change being a biker. I don't own or drive a car and have no real interest in getting a full car license
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illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[picklesjn]

Yep, two wheels good, four wheels bad, although I must confess to owning half a car... it does come in useful occasionally!

[pinkyfloyd]

[picklesjn]

Haha! Mine is still intact, thankfully - my boyfriend owns the other half!

[pinkyfloyd]

keep the above pic in your head just incase you break up but make sure he gets the arse end.


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illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[rexy]

Go at your own pace, and gain confidence at your own speed.

I went from a hyosung xrx 125 which I had for a month to a zx6r 2004.

I'd never touched a bike before may 2010, and last saturday I bought my ninja. The first few hours were the scariest thing for me, but after owning it for just over a week I've put on some 580miles now and use it day in day out.

Just take your time and enjoy it.

[Slacker24seve...]

Try as many bikes as possible before you buy and definitely take someone with you who knows what they're on about.

I sat on 20 or so, including the Fazer, before I plumped for the Hornet and I'm now very glad I did, I love it

I wanted to like the Fazer but it felt too top heavy to me... and by god its ugly. Best of luck with it anyway though!

Two tips from me though: Seriously consider if you want big, breakable fairings on your first big bike. Then whichever you choose, fit some crash bungs. They will save you money in a low speed tumble
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[ollieholt]

i too went from a cg125 to a fazer, great pace when you need it, comfiest bike ive ever ridden for any length of time. sporty enough when you want it to be, i commute 5-6 miles on it and it will do well over 150 miles to a £15 fill up.

very very good bike, get a low mileage clean one and you will be laughin. as usual check the second gear when buying yamaha weak link but not seen often on fazers. check bike for usual bits. you will love it!
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[weegieblue]

Thanks folks.

My next door neighbour is a mechanic and keen biker so he's been helping me out. He sorted my EN125 out for me and said he'd help sort my first big bike too so I feel I'm in safe hands!

As long as I get a decent insurance quote I'll be happy. Looking forward to getting my first big bike and heading on a proper ride out - 55mph on the 125 just doesn't cut it really.....
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[iooi]

[N cee thirty]

insurance is abit of hit and miss

costs me about £800 with no no claims for third party fire and theft

CHR15 lives about half a mile down the lane with the same bike and options as me and pays like £350

i don't get it,but make sure you have a good look at how much it could cost you
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[Teflon-Mike]

[weegieblue]

Very interesting. I didn't really consider the consumables too much. As a car driver of 10 years you just think tax, insurance, petrol and MOT/Service. I guess with the bike there's more to spend money on than the car.

Cheers for that
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[Teflon-Mike]

[a3rox]

do yous not think it depends on what bike and car you compare each other too, i mean if you want a fast car you have to look at high performance sports cars or if you want a eco car you wud go for a 1.0 litre totally different in prices for running costs and maintance

I mean a have had alot of performance cars but i will use my last car i owned for an example,just for 308mm front discs not including fitting ,rear discs pads etc cost 179 for a set, and then cost me a further 100 for the rear, 60 quid for front and back pads.
The rear didnt need changed to much but the fronts pads needed changed every year, wheel bearing 220 quid for front left as the bearing was part of the hub and abs sensor. Nothing ever seemed to be cheap to be honest, i was putting 10 quid fuel in daily which got me no where, 137 quid for 6 months tax, 800 quid a year insurance, if u put ur foot down nd allowed the boost to come in it would drink that 10 quid fuel within 15 mins, services every 4,000 to 6,000 miles , full service every 12 months, tires 140 quid each mainly fronts as front wheel drive with high performance.

so kind of makes me wonder if it depends on what car you compare it to, as when i had that car it still was no where near as fast as a 600cc superbike, if i wanted sumthing to keep up to performance of a bike am talking big costs for running the car and the price of the car as having massive amounts of bhp , performance parts and up rated everything ,and thats just to keep up to a standard 600cc bike.

But if you compared a 1.0 or 1.2 to a 600cc superbike the bike may be more to run and maintain but say a 1.6 1.8 maybe about the same to run as a superbike.

just think it depends on what you want out of your car or bike to what you will compare it to, wanting sumthing to get u bk nd forth to work etc or wanting sumthing fast with good performance that is for weekend toy.

i compare a superbike with the likes of porshes,ferrari etc so would hate to know the costs of owning them haha :p
And a 100 to 125 to a 1.2 corsa or sumthing
But thats my thoughts, hope it makes sense as wrote this post out using my phone and its annoying typing on the damn thing lol
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[iooi]

[weegieblue]

Thanks iooi, that is kinds what I wanted to read, but now I'm more confused as it contradicts the previous posts.

I guess I'll just have to "live and learn"....!
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