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dobbin007
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PostPosted: 08:35 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Anyone planning to steal a bike Reply with quote
Did anyone see this
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-10984311
So if you want to nick a bike in Manchester don't wear a lid.
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PostPosted: 08:58 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Makes my blood boil Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Should have just knocked the twats off.... Twisted Evil

Top police man made a very valid point about the press. They slate the police when involved in a chase that results in a crash and injury, even to the teats who stole it. Yet they are giving them grief when they don't chase them...

WTF are they supposed to do.

Personally if they have stolen bike/car etc. The police should be allowed to use whatever force nessary to bring it to a halt as quickly as possible. If that means ramming them off the road, then so be it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Would you really shed a tear if one of these scrotes were severely injured or to even die during a pursuit?

I wouldn't
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Would you really shed a tear if one of these scrotes were severely injured or to even die during a pursuit?

I wouldn't


Nope!
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PostPosted: 10:41 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Would you really shed a tear if one of these scrotes were severely injured or to even die during a pursuit?

I wouldn't


Are you happy to give police the power to kill/maim people that have commited an offence?

I'm not.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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locked wrote:
Would you really shed a tear if one of these scrotes were severely injured or to even die during a pursuit?

I wouldn't


Are you happy to give police the power to kill/maim people that have commited an offence?

I'm not.

Not intentionally, but if they did by accident say knock the fucker off the bike then a few scratches wouldn't be too bad. You give police the power to shoot then crime will drop quite rapidly.
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Big_Ham wrote:


Are you happy to give police the power to kill/maim people that have commited an offence?


What Bubbs just said, I am all for the police to do what ever they have to, to stop the scrotes.

methods such as this -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r7IPTA3d_0
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
That Spanish video is AMAZING. Funniest thing I've ever seen.

Unfortunately, now the whole office is wondering what's got me crying with laughter... Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:17 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Big_Ham wrote:
locked wrote:
Would you really shed a tear if one of these scrotes were severely injured or to even die during a pursuit?

I wouldn't


Are you happy to give police the power to kill/maim people that have commited an offence?

I'm not.


Are you happy to let criminals get away in case they get hurt during the chase?



'oooh look he is climbing a fence stop chasing him in-case he falls over and grazes his knee.'
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PostPosted: 11:17 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thats OK, he was wearing a crash helmet Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bubbs wrote:

Not intentionally, but if they did by accident say knock the fucker off the bike then a few scratches wouldn't be too bad. You give police the power to shoot then crime will drop quite rapidly.


Not necessarily.

You assume you being shot at would deter. That's not always the case. Simply means that crims are more likely to go out tooled up, and to be fair I don't think our ordinary cops can be trusted to fire a weapon, given that the majority don't seem to have a clue about the law.
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
chris-red wrote:


Are you happy to let criminals get away in case they get hurt during the chase?



'oooh look he is climbing a fence stop chasing him in-case he falls over and grazes his knee.'


Your fence example is a little different.

Wink

In this instance the police are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

The UK police force has had a policy for quite a while that if the pursuit is deemed too dangerous to continue then they abandon it. Be this in a car or on a bike. It reduces the risk to innocents.

How would you feel if an innocent was taken out by a car/bike the police had tagged?
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Are you happy to let criminals get away in case they get hurt during the chase?


In the TV programmes showing the fuzz in car chases, you sometimes see them stop a chase (or at least back right off) as members of the public could be put at risk by the acts of the scrotes in the car/on the bike they're chasing. That's fair enough, as I wouldn't like to get hurt or my car/bike smashed up in the middle of a chase.

I've never seen one where they've backed off to ensure the safety of the idiot(s) they're chasing. But it does make you wonder if it happens, particularly bearing in mind the original post...

Quite frankly, the thieves made a conscious, informed decision to 1) steal the bikes, and then 2) ride them with no helmets on. They've made the choices, they're doing it, so why be concerned for their safety?
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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What Bubbs just said, I am all for the police to do what ever they have to, to stop the scrotes.

methods such as this -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8r7IPTA3d_0


I don't think the police can be trusted to be given those sorts of powers since they can't seem to get away with abusing the ones they have.
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
WaitingToHappen wrote:


Quite frankly, the thieves made a conscious, informed decision to 1) steal the bikes, and then 2) ride them with no helmets on. They've made the choices, they're doing it, so why be concerned for their safety?


The reason for 2 is that they knew they wouldn't be chased. As I've said some forces have had that particular policy for a while.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
As you said, they're damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Ho hum. Hopefully karma will catch up with the thieves at some point...
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think that any kind of pursuits in built up areas will put the public and other peoples property at risk, a more advanced security system is needed for bikes imo as I believe prevention is the best option. With todays modern electonic technology there is no reason that a bikes brain could not be incorporated into a smart card that is specific to each bike (similar to a phone sim card and used by honda on the nsr 250) as a removable item thus rendering the bike useless to thieves, this wont prevent them putting a bike into a van but it would prevent American style high speed pursuits were the rider, the bike and the public end up getting wrecked or killed.
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Big_Ham wrote:
WaitingToHappen wrote:


Quite frankly, the thieves made a conscious, informed decision to 1) steal the bikes, and then 2) ride them with no helmets on. They've made the choices, they're doing it, so why be concerned for their safety?


The reason for 2 is that they knew they wouldn't be chased. As I've said some forces have had that particular policy for a while.


Would probably be different if it was your bike they nicked...
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Would probably be different if it was your bike they nicked...


Now THERE's a question. If PC Plod, whilst on duty, saw his own stolen bike going past, complete with Mr. Scrote on-board, I wonder what kind of chase would ensue?
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PostPosted: 12:16 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
locked wrote:
Would you really shed a tear if one of these scrotes were severely injured or to even die during a pursuit?

I wouldn't


Laughing It's not you cleaning the scrote off the road if he does crash though, is it?
I couldn't possibly say what my judgement call would be in such a situation. Regardless of my personal feelings towards bike thieves, I couldn't justify putting myself through the potential clean up (including any emotional trauma) and the villification by the press and public which no doubt leads to a suspension for however long, unless it was a violent crime (e.g the bike was nicked at gun point etc).
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Saw that and it made me fucking seethe. Cue every bike thief making off from the cops without a lid on now Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
I would rather not see this sort of thing on British roads, sickening and massive overkill Sick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKgbxVwr7Fg
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
radical wrote:
I would rather not see this sort of thing on British roads, sickening and massive overkill Sick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKgbxVwr7Fg


How is that in any way relevant?
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 17 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
At least here it's only bikers they don't chase.
In this one they don't even chase bank robbers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZRy-6hVuco&NR=1

On a more serious note. Don't they nudge bikers in the states to stop them if they won't stop?
IMO if you decide to flee from the po-po you accept what might come your way. Just happens to be tough luck if you're on a bike Razz
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