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Armor by John Steakley is like starship troopers (book) but less talking more fighting and psychological aftermath in robotic battle fighting suits.
Old Man's War John Scalzi, which is a book about interstellar war and genetics instead of robot battle fighting suits
The Forever War Which I read about 1/3 of before somebody borrowed it and never gave it back.
The moon is a harsh mistress Sci fi but rather political rational anarchist, the earth/moon war occupies only about 20% of the end of the book ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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The Dorsai/Childe series by Gordon R Dickson.  ____________________ "That's it. You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college."
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not 40K i know but the C.L Werner warhammer books (like the Witchhunter series) are good  ____________________ "intelligent inattention is preferable to unintelligent tinkering"
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| Mister James wrote: | Fawbish - he's an excellent writer, and a top bloke to boot. I swap the occasional email with him after we got into a debate on his Facebook page about the election. It helps that most 40k novels are utter pap written for kids by mongs - I should know, I foolishly buy most of them despite knowing I'll be disappointed.
Angelgrinder - agreed on both series.
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Thats fantastic. He's a bit of an idol of mine.
And I know what you mean. I was maybe 12/13 when I picked up 'Storm of Iron' by Graham McNeill - this had a bit of an affect on me, and I think I now own most of the Black Library, despite there only being maybe 40% of real, actual decent reading there.
As I've obviously grown a little since then, the typical Space Marine books dont do much for me, though the Heresy series is absolutely great, a true sense of history from the future, which is strange but brilliant.
My favourites however, have got to be Eisenhorn and Ravenor. I actually am full on emotionally connected to the characters in those books Followed by Gaunts Ghosts, most definitely.
I havent picked up a good 40K book in a while now tbh.
Angel, knowing some backstory only helps, it doesnt hinder. Not knowing wouldnt be awful but wouldnt release the potential of the books. If you have a colourful imagination, then some of the books are truly fuckin' A.  ____________________ "Oh....it looks like Average Joe's is forfeiting the match!" - "Yeah, its a risky strategy but lets see if it pays off for 'em Cotton." |
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| Hazylogic |
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You don't need any backstory. All you need to know is that in the future there is only war!
During the summer I tend to read 40k/starwars as it's easy enough to get along with after spending the rest of the year doing critical theory on medieval poetry...
One that is non stop 40k is the ultramarine Omnibus by Graham McNeill. It took me a long time to complete, as I needed to read it in short spurts; as it is non stop 'for the emperor!'
I also enjoyed the Eisenhorn trilogy by Dan Abnett. A rather somber take on being in the inquisition. It could of been written in the early 19c - Quality stuff.
There is also another W40k book, rather aptly entitled 'let the galaxy burn.' It's chock full of short stories, all which showcase the futile nature of war in their universe. It harbours plenty of different perspectives too: my favourite was set on an agricultural planet and the Tyranids arrive.
Mechanicum by Graham Mcneill. I think this is book 7 or 8, but you don't need to read them in order. I found McNeill provides a lot of detail, Yet his descriptions seem to flow, and only help in imagining the battles being fought on Mars.
The first three books in the Horus Heresy are okay too; purely to see how the galaxy became the way it is - superstitious rather than rational - which is not the way the Emperor intended it to be. It all just crumbles around him.
I do enjoy the 40k universe and some of the authors do try and show that it isn't so black and white. However, there is a lot of shit being wrote for it, which they just seem to churn out. But, if you get the likes of McNeill and Abnett, then they can capture your attention, and place it in the universe with relative ease; so you don't end up looking for the gaping holes in the story or plot, which some of the authors are unable to do.
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im currently reading the "Horus Heresy" series from black library, pretty good so far, nearly on the 5th book of the serieis.
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well book 6 is absolute dross; skip it  |
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well book 6 is absolute dross; skip it  |
read "Angels of Darkness" instead far far better. ____________________ "intelligent inattention is preferable to unintelligent tinkering"
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| Hazylogic wrote: |
well book 6 is absolute dross; skip it  |
I dont know - it doesnt match up to the quality of the others, but I wouldnt say complete dross.
I think it highlights the true fundamental differences between Primarchs and ordinary humans, even ones that are lauded for their achievements. Johnson just couldnt quite capture the smaller scale of the picture, whereas Luther couldnt help the resent at the shadow being cast etc.
Not brilliant but not horribly awful, imo. Still worth a read. ____________________ "Oh....it looks like Average Joe's is forfeiting the match!" - "Yeah, its a risky strategy but lets see if it pays off for 'em Cotton." |
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Ender's game - it's a bit on the naive side, but the universe that Orson Scott Card generates is oddly compelling.
Scratch Monkey and Glasshouse by Charles Stross - both rather good, post-singularity material. Worth a glance, and if you enjoy them, try Accelerando by the same guy. It's my favourite book at the moment.
Of course, there's Starship Troopers, which is legendarily good, but not too fussed with the futurist element - it's more about the experiences of a soldier, than about a protracted campaign. ____________________ '10 SV650SF, '83 GS650GT (it lives!), Questionable DIY dash project, 3D Printer project, Lasercutter project |
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| Hazylogic wrote: |
well book 6 is absolute dross; skip it  |
And Battle for the Abyss - easily the worst of the series by some way. Clumsily written, weak storyline - and generally just childish and shit.
Nemesis, the most recent novel in the series, is also pretty crap - it flies in the face of the 40k universe and its associated fluff, and basically reads like the Dirty Dozen in space. ____________________ >Soultrader Mister James, I bet you are a copper
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I read all the original GW books when they were published in the early 90’s including the Dark Future, Warhammer and W40K ones. I’ve not read any of the more recent ones, but I liked the originals a lot so I’ll look into it.
My favourite series of sci-fi novels are all pretty much out of print these days, but you can still pick them up from Amazon second-hand and doubtless they will appear as digital books eventually.
Author: Julian May
The Saga of the Exiles comprises four books:
The Many-Coloured Land
The Golden Torc
The Nonborn King
The Adversary
Gifted old French dude invents a time gate in 22nd century France that opens a door to the same location six million years in the past. Unfortunately it’s a one way trip as anything that comes back through the portal ages six million years in an instant. Gradually a business builds sending misfits and nutters through the time gate. No one knows what happens on the other side and thousands of people choose to go through over several decades.
The story starts with a small group of travellers going through to discover that Earth of six million years ago is occupied by two alien races locked in a never ending war with all the humans who’ve come through the gate effectively getting enslaved. Lots of fighting, both high and low tech and superhuman mind powers play a large part in all the books.
The story loosely continues with four further books, set on Earth and various other planets, which tell the story of the family of one of the main characters from the 1940s through to 22nd century. These books are:
Intervention (the US version was in two parts, but UK was one volume.)
Jack the Bodiless
Diamond Mask
Magnificat
Not particularly high-brow stuff, but I found it emotionally involving and highly entertaining. ____________________ 2016 CBF1000F - Commuter heaven | 1994 CBR600FR - Awaiting defibrillation |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 15 years, 152 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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