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Itchy · Super Spammer Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Karma :

Please this is not spam... but maybe interesting to other people who don't look where I look for jobs.

Just saw this on my daily jobs trawl....

It is slave labour (and illegal) because you don't get paid, but might be useful for somebody who wants to get into the dead tree press.

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Skudd · Super Spammer Joined: 01 Oct 2006 Karma :

Since when has work experience been illegal?
It was good experience for my son when he did it and got an insight into how an office works.
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Skudd · Super Spammer Joined: 01 Oct 2006 Karma :

Well that fucks up a load of schools and kids wanting an insight into work.
Lifeboatmen are fucked too.
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gmanxiii · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Karma :

What about all those stabby chav kids who beat/kill/rob someone and is asked by the courts to do X hours of unpaid work?
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AngelGrinder · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Karma :

It's so illegal, even the police do it with Special Constables.
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kingsknight · World Chat Champion Joined: 21 Jun 2003 Karma :

id turn up break a lot of shit then call everyone a cunt..... then leave
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benjami · Nearly there... Joined: 14 Nov 2007 Karma :

I just did a 6 week unpaid placement as part of my degree programme, it isn't illegal as long as you're doing it voluntarily doing it.

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tavish mctavish · L Plate Warrior Joined: 25 Aug 2010 Karma :

and people wonder why the country is a pile of shit.

when you first start work, you know nothing and are actually worse than useless because someone has to hold you hand and that takes up their valuable time.

this goes for graduates as very few university courses are actually vocational.

so all this minimum wage bollocks and cant volunteer for work experience is a load of old rubbish.

if you are any good at something you will become valuable and you will get paid. this is the natural way for things to work.

colin1 · Captain Safety Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Karma :

You cant stop people from working for nothing if they want to.

I'd be surprised if after working for nothing, people can somehow legally demand payment.

I'd agree that a lot of employers make use of people for free knowing it wont lead anywhere, but it is just a way for people to gain experience that they think they wouldn't be able to otherwise.

A friend works for British Gas, and they pay their trainee gas engineers £5k a year, which is a lot less than minimum wage, but once qualified they earn loads, and BG has trouble retaining them, so if they leave within a certain time, they are asked to pay for the cost of their training.
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Dom · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Karma :

Work experience is illegal slave labour? Itchy, I know you enjoy talking bollocks, but that takes the biscuit. Laughing

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Wafer_Thin_Ham · Super Spammer Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Karma :

No way I'd work for VD, especially for free. Formally Two Wheels Only, which was a crap mag anyway.
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colin1 · Captain Safety Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Karma :

If for years, you paid someone £3 every week or so to wash your car, and then found out some mug would do it for free, and did ok, you would not keep paying for something you can get for free.

Employers do not exist to provide a service of offering you paid employment, and a career.

If they can do what you do cheaper and or better, they will replace you.

This is why unions came into existence, and tradesmens guilds. They attempt to protect their workers. Unions still live on in public sector jobs and in jobs that were formerly public sector, but I believe that most workers now are not in a union. A lot of places like their employees having no employment rights, so they will only employ them for less than a year, before ditching them.
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Hex · Party Boy Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

We don't do work experiance for this reason.

The other reason is its always the bloody job centre wanting to send us some person for "free" to get some experiance, thing is its always someone who has no interest in being there its just they dont want their dole stopping.

Laughing

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