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Bikes or Scooters
I'm a biker and anti scooters
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I'm a biker and dont mind scooters
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I'm a scooter rider and proud
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pinkyfloyd
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PostPosted: 16:58 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Bikes or scooter debate Reply with quote

I was out with the eldest today and a few Lambretta's passed. I told her they are terrible machines along with scooters and they should all go get proper bikes.

She then asked me if its a biker thing that we are all anti scooter. I informed her that lots of bikers are anti scooter and since back in the day it was mods against rockers and i fell more into the rocker catagory I'm doubly anti scooter.

So i thought I would put it to the BCF forum dwellers for their views
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Horses for courses, innit.

Scooters work for some and not for others. Why worry so much about what someone else is riding?
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

This whole 'I hate scooter/cruiser/sportsbike/insert group of choice' thing is tedious. Who cares what someone else is doing, if they're enjoying it then fair play.
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: Bikes or scooter debate Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
I was out with the eldest today and a few Lambretta's passed. I told her they are terrible machines along with scooters and they should all go get proper bikes.

She then asked me if its a biker thing that we are all anti scooter. I informed her that lots of bikers are anti scooter and since back in the day it was mods against rockers and i fell more into the rocker catagory I'm doubly anti scooter.

So i thought I would put it to the BCF forum dwellers for their views


I'm anti scooter because dynamically they are very poor. The engine is attached to the swinging arm, which doesn't help unsprung weight. The weight is mostly at the back, and the wheels are small meaning they are inherently unstable. The front suspension has limited travel, and the rear is limited by the weight of the engine.

A bike of the same weight and power of a scooter would be dynamically better.

That doesn't mean that I hate all scooter riders though.
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scooters are fine. They fill a niche, and do what they do well. It's a style thing, and if you can't see what the appeal would be to other people, then take the blinkers off and admit that giving mods a kicking went out of fashion decades ago.
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I'd go for a bike over a scooter, any day.

However, it's each to their own.

Scooters are often cheap to run, cheap to maintain, cheap to buy, etc.

They make for good commuting machines for many people, including the otherwise everyday car driver, and many people prefer scooters over bikes for numerous reasons.

I don't dislike scooters, they're just not my thing.

If they enjoy riding scooters, or if they don't enjoy it, but made the choice to go for a scooter over a bike for whatever reason, fair play to them.

Makes no odds to me.

EDIT: Also, maybe I'd ought to add that I'm too young to remember this Mods and Rockers lark, but have heard it all from my old man. Therefore I suppose I don't really have any preconceived ideas about scooter riders.

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PostPosted: 18:08 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm. This makes a perfect commuter, 25 miles to central London. Has also taken 2 people, tents and stuff, 200 miles to Glastonbury.

But it's also comparatively hopeless for Sunday mornings and trips to the races. Quite fun trying though.

https://www.bikeweb.com/files/images/1790997429_408e7d48f6_o-1428.preview.jpg

Is it still a scooter? Hmmm. Maybe not.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like to hate scooters because it is fun.
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not so much don't like Scooters, just don't like the little Bampot Chav pillocks that ride them, pay no attention to anyone else on road or rules, riding round in little packs weaving round roads or sat with helmets perched on head with fag in McD's car parks or the like!! Feckin urchins!!!
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same as above, can't stand ped bois, they're a danger to themselves and other road users.
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PostPosted: 20:23 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never owned a scooter, though if I did get one, I'd have a classic pre-registration letter with b&w plates.


Also, when I'm older and can't throw my leg over cos my hips giving me gyp, I'll buy whatever the latest version of the Silver Wing is.
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crana wrote:
Same as above, can't stand ped bois, they're a danger to themselves and other road users.


the same if often said about riders of sports bikes
and about motorcyclist uninformed members of society ,

i agree with bendy.
if people spent less time worrying what others were riding, and making stereotyped judgments on strangers based on what they are riding then you would have more time to enjoy your own riding Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 21:38 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two wheels is two wheels so long as its got an engine, I see these folk riding the little scooters in snow and shit and they get my respect as much as anyone riding Im afraid to say Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've ridden a scooter for just over 2 1/2 years and I've slowly grown sick of the tinny sound of it, but hopefully I'll be upgrading to a 125 within the next few weeks. Smile

2wheelsteve wrote:
Two wheels is two wheels so long as its got an engine, I see these folk riding the little scooters in snow and shit and they get my respect as much as anyone riding Im afraid to say Thumbs Up


Snow riding is definitely one of the scariest things I've done, zooming along country roads with a pile of snow in the middle of the road. Razz Riding back home at night after a day's theatre rehearsal wasn't smart, though Doh!
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark24 wrote:
I've ridden a scooter for just over 2 1/2 years and I've slowly grown sick of the tinny sound of it, but hopefully I'll be upgrading to a 125 within the next few weeks. Smile

2wheelsteve wrote:
Two wheels is two wheels so long as its got an engine, I see these folk riding the little scooters in snow and shit and they get my respect as much as anyone riding Im afraid to say Thumbs Up


Snow riding is definitely one of the scariest things I've done, zooming along country roads with a pile of snow in the middle of the road. Razz Riding back home at night after a day's theatre rehearsal wasn't smart, though Doh!



It might not be a smart thing to do but you gotta admitt if its event free its brilliant fun Thumbs Up Smile
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it means anything...I nod to scooters now.


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PostPosted: 22:02 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

2wheelsteve wrote:
It might not be a smart thing to do but you gotta admitt if its event free its brilliant fun Thumbs Up Smile


Yeah, it was fun until my night ride home, which resulted in a slip along one of the country roads close to the village where I live D:
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I quite like scooters. If you are only commuting inter-city then there's not much point getting anything else.
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got my proper bike for silly fun but for practicality I always take Mrs Wife's Piaggio to Tesco's as I can get my shopping in the top box
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember a few years back, seeing a biker in the distance, on the hard shoulder.

I pulled in to the first lane and then I started to slow down.

And at the last minute realised it was a scooter. At which point I sped off.


I did feel a bit of a cock afterwards though.
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PostPosted: 22:19 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Howling Terror wrote:
If it means anything...I nod to scooters now.


Pat



Nice one, I always have. too much snobbery really and if you look at it we are all in the same boat Smile Smile Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried nodding (to non ped bois) and they never, ever nod back so I stopped Confused I assume a lot of serious scooter riders only have them to get from A to B and know nothing of the biker code.

I understand ped bois could be compared to super bike riders doing 140mph in 30mph zones mowing down kittens, but I've never seen them so I'll stick to automatically thinking ped bois are tw@s Very Happy I was once behind one in a car and I assume the kid was bored because he swerved around a central island thing onto on coming traffic, then went back into the correct lane - just for the craic I suppose Thinking
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

There will come a time in many biker's lives when they will, for various reasons find it impossible to get a leg over. When it happens the choices are simple, give up biking or get a step thru, what will you do? I chose the scooter option - better than 4 wheels or the bus!!!
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quite like old vespas. don't like ped charvs dicking about like complete tw@s. why do they CONSTANTLY have to turn around and look behind them while riding. like an exaggerated lifesaver every 5 seconds as if to say to their mate behind them "look, i have managed to not fall off this 50cc 4bhp BEAST while riding in a straight line! respect me" cocks.

Personally I find scooters abit boring to ride. gotta be geared or i'll be bored shitless around town
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