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Marmalade
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Riding, crashing and the plod Reply with quote

Sorry, turned into a babbling rant.


I got tugged last week by some copper biatch in dorset, plain beemer estate.
I got fed up with bein gin lane 2 with empty lane one on a duel so undertook.
Yep, it's wrong but coppette, said i should be patient and i replied "no, people should drive properly and not hog the outside lane"
Anyway, she didn't like that.
She also said, what would have happened if she'd swerved into lane 1?
My reply was "you should learn how to drive, use mirrors and signal"

Not a great day out coming home with tickets.

Should the ritual of handing out tickets and generally being cunts to motorists and bikers not be examined per case, someone who rides 2000 miles a year, caught speeding 3 times and had 2 accidents is much more of a danger than someone who hasn't had an accident driving cars, lorries and bikes in 21 years and a million miles in that time

My view is and i know blowing own trumpet and all that bollox but i'll go on, I last had an off at over 5mph 21 years ago and that was doing standing donuts in a car park, prior to that was a year before hitting a truckload of sand dumped on an unlit road with no lights or cones.
Been a courier on and off for last 18 years and do about 60,000 miles a year on 2 wheels, this is the average mileage of 20 years for most bikers and judging by these forums most people seem to have an off every year or two.

Cop said my riding was dangerous blah blah but she is basing that on her skills and ability but i ride like it constantly, 7 days, uk and europe and so far managed to not hit anything and much less kill myself or anyone else.

Just a rant but pissed off that i'm on the verge of losing my licence and business because cunt believes i'm a danger to other users based on her own inability to ride properly
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My pet hate is those who drive on the right when the left is clear. many a time I have been doing under the speed limit and still been going quicker than those in the right hand lane.

There is an offence for staying in the right hand lane too long ( can't remember which one off the top of my head) but the police are either not there or too busy doing something else.
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PostPosted: 16:26 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
There is an offence for staying in the right hand lane too long ( can't remember which one off the top of my head) but the police are either not there or too busy doing something else.


Or doing it themselves mostly
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do this all the time on the motorway. I just carry on at 70ish mph passing all these idiots in the outside lane doing 50.

I dont even consider it undertaking as I am generally not changing lanes to make progress, I'm just continuing my journey, all be it faster than some other people.
Don't know if this would stand up should some bored copper decide to pull me though.

I have seen message signs on the motorway saying something like 'Keep left unless overtaking' but I doubt anyone is going to change their driving habits after seeing one!
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: Riding, crashing and the plod Reply with quote

Marmalade wrote:
I got tugged last week by some copper


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PostPosted: 17:27 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: Riding, crashing and the plod Reply with quote

I wrote:
Marmalade wrote:
I got tugged last week by some copper


Laughing


Immature sod Laughing

Saying that theres...


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said i should be patient


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PostPosted: 17:34 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im pretty sure it's no longer illegal to undertake as long as it's done safely. Don't quote me on that though.
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PostPosted: 17:47 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My friend planted his SXV into a wall a few month ago, was with TUG at the scene of the accident but he'd already been carted off to hospital in an ambulance. We didn't know how badly hurt he was, so made our way up to the hospital.

On the way up, I undertook a plain beamer, going in the bus lane to get past it on the inside, and the blues and twos came on as I was next to it. Luckily, I didn't open it up, I just edged my way past before they pulled me.

Got off with it, saying I was on the way to see my friend, to which they said they were on their way to the hospital as well and would see me there. Glad they let me off, politeness and a good attitude is the way to treat them, otherwise you will piss them off and end up with a ticket.
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What exactly has she done you for? You are allowed to undertake when traffic is queuing, technically if it's doing under the speed limit then it is queuing so I would argue that you did not break the law.

Look at it this way, you're in a clear lane one doing 70 and the outside lane is slowing down to 50, are you supposed to brake and slow down just so that you don't go past the car parallel with you in the outside lane? No chance, so if you were speeding and deliberately moved across to undertake then you may have an issue, otherwise fight it.
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If traffic is queuing you may pass in the left lane, I tend to get pissed off with idiots sitting in the right lane and just whip by them, i take it wide, make sure they are too busy pissing about with their phone or makeup to be able to make the move over, i don't cause any problems, i don't cut them up(unless they deserve it) and luckily have never been seen doing it. I do tend to flash my lights and point to the left lane if they just sit there and it's clear, most people won't think twice and will move over because someone has told them to.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

beast rider wrote:
Im pretty sure it's no longer illegal to undertake as long as it's done safely. Don't quote me on that though.


i think its more the fact that if you're in the left lane doing the speed limit and pass someone on the left its not undertaking as you're just sitting in your lane.

its where you come up behind them and pull into the left lane to go past, thats where the grey area starts.

you could argue that you were just moving into the left lane as it was free as a good driver should Wink
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I undertake all the time, it's much better than sitting behind them flashing/beeping at them. That's the other only alternative really. Wasn't really aware it was a pullable offence either - shouldn't the person hogging the right lane be pulled instead? Confused
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
What exactly has she done you for? You are allowed to undertake when traffic is queuing, technically if it's doing under the speed limit then it is queuing so I would argue that you did not break the law.


You're allowed to undertake full stop, it's simply against the recommendations of the highway code. Personally, i'd be looking to fight it (i'm guessing it's careless driving she's tried for?). The only concern is that she'll lie or embellish to not lose face and look like the stupid bint she is. They don't seem to need to prove anything any more.
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crana wrote:
I undertake all the time, it's much better than sitting behind them flashing/beeping at them.


I can confirm this, I don't make a habit of it but some pricks just sit in the outside lane of a dual carriageway with a clear road ahead while failing to overtake what they are next to, however, last time I did it, it was an unmarked Saab Rolling Eyes Got pulled and the, 'naughty, naughty boy' speech but as I was meagerly "making him aware of my presence" there wasn't much to be done.
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes on the M1 coming north out of London, where it's 4 lanes, and the inside 2 lanes are empty, the outside two occupied by cars doing 69.99'mph.
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

@OP What were you actually stuck on for?
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the M25 for 30 mins, twice a day, five days a week.
If I did not undertake, I would never get where I was going.

It used to bother me (drivers sitting in overtaking lanes) but there's so many poor drivers these days, I would end up too depressed if I let it get to me. Wink
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mister James wrote:
@OP What were you actually stuck on for?



Yer, you can't get a ticket for 'undertaking'. Please explain what you were done for.
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PostPosted: 08:28 - 30 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

yuri2085 wrote:
Mister James wrote:
@OP What were you actually stuck on for?



Yer, you can't get a ticket for 'undertaking'. Please explain what you were done for.


Op has also failed to mention just what the speed limit was and how fast he was going....
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 30 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mister James & the others that asked wrote:
@OP What were you actually stuck on for?


She asked if would like to be ticketed for dangerous driving or 60 in a 50, i never owned up to anything and just said the 60 sounds like a preferable option.

If i fight it i feel i could get myself in deeper, video in car and if she was doing 50 and i pass on inside i'm obviously speeding and could the court then screw me for the dangerous?

To add more to this, just had a nip in the post for a camera in Bristol, this will bring me nicely to 12 points Crying or Very sad

All in this year Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

Not had any for previous 3 years, i must be getting dangerous in my old age
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PostPosted: 23:51 - 30 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marmalade wrote:

Or doing it themselves mostly



More than likely.

I was seeing a cop for a few weeks. He was a very speed limit abiding diver, but never singled and completely lane chopped on roundabouts. How he had his advanced rating I do not know!
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You weren't riding that marked-up pan were you?
Maybe they wanted to get back at you for being annoying, if so Smile.

I would have been tempted to suggest she took me to court for dangerous driving. Doubt it's going to be worth the CPS trying to convince a jury of twelve men good and true etc that.

I was irked to be done for double-white lines being told that it was terribly unsafe - then had the cop agree actually I was entirely safe.
Couple of days later I was following three police vans all nose to tail doing 70mph in an 'unlimited' dual carriageway, with no suggestion of there being an emergency Rolling Eyes.
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The amount of times I see marked Police cars on the motorways doing 90+ is actually sickening. Especially when their blue lights aren't flashing.
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
The amount of times I see marked Police cars on the motorways doing 90+ is actually sickening. Especially when their blue lights aren't flashing.

Probably means that theyre the ones who won't pull you over if youre doing 80-90mph. So I'm happy for them to do that, shows theyre human.

As for the OP. It is not illegal to undertake if the vehicle in the outside lane is not travelling at the speed limit for that road. Assuming she was doing 50 in a 50 it is therefore illegal to undertake as you would have to be doing over the limit and performing a 'dangerous' manouvere. If she was doing 40 then it would be perfectly legal to undertake up to the speed of 50mph (assuming thats the limit of the road). I think she would also be at fault for poor 'lane discipline' which I beleive is a road traffic offence, although I'm sure that will be corrected by some eagle eyed person with nothing better to do with their lives.
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marmalade wrote:
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She asked if would like to be ticketed for dangerous driving or 60 in a 50, i never owned up to anything and just said the 60 sounds like a preferable option.

If i fight it i feel i could get myself in deeper, video in car and if she was doing 50 and i pass on inside i'm obviously speeding and could the court then screw me for the dangerous?

To add more to this, just had a nip in the post for a camera in Bristol, this will bring me nicely to 12 points Crying or Very sad

All in this year Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

Not had any for previous 3 years, i must be getting dangerous in my old age


I would say you need glasses Wink
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