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dhxt125x
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: New Rider needs help! [Supermoto] Reply with quote

With my supermoto the yammaha xt125x I'm able to ride on an array of terrain however as I have only ridden it 4 times and one of those times crashing into a ditch and breaking my ankle I need a few riding tips, clutching / gas seem to be a problem, gears not so much other than riding around in built up areas where the roads are short and the speed limits are 30 (2nd gear is okay but the revs are a tad to high so I stick it in 3rd) The main issue I have is the wind, being a fenland area theres not much protection from the wind, I was riding down a small stretch of road at 44-50mph when I suddenly noticed I was over the white line, the wind is rather strong at the moment but other than slowing down I'm not sure what the best thing to do is.

We have adjusted the clutch so it's more responsive and doesn't have to be fully released, I'm already breaking with only the front break and clutch / gears I'm guessing I will pick up starting from a stand still better if I relax, as I'm never on the road I get a little nervous especially since the day I got my bike I crashed.

Thanks in Advance! Rolling Eyes
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BigTobyD
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 29 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get somewhere private and flat (closed car park maybe) and follow these three words of advice:

practice
practice
practice

Frankly, if you can't yet handle gears and clutch fluently you have no business doing 50.....unless you like your bones broken?
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dt125fanatic
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PostPosted: 00:50 - 30 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

just practice going slow as posible without falling of to get your balance good then you can counter the wind leading etc and dont feel nervous on the roads so stay relaxed.
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 30 Aug 2010    Post subject: Re: New Rider needs help! [Supermoto] Reply with quote

dhxt125x wrote:
With my supermoto the yammaha xt125x I'm able to ride on an array of terrain however as I have only ridden it 4 times and one of those times crashing into a ditch and breaking my ankle I need a few riding tips,

'An array of terrain' - err, like any bike then Confused.

I presume you've done a CBT?

Sounds like you just need some practice - take it easy and don't go out of your comfort zone.
First times I rode on my own I was pretty sketchy.

If your clutch control isn't great, get yourself to a quiet industrial estate maybe and just get some practice in - you should soon get used to the 'feel'.
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dhxt125x
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 30 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been driving around a lot already, my technique and balance is fine, I never use my back break I slow with changing down gears and my front. The problem is being on the road. the moment I'm on dirt I don't stutter the bike with the clutch.

I had never ridden before in my life other than CBT - which I passed on an automatic / scooter
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 30 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhxt125x wrote:
the moment I'm on dirt I don't stutter the bike with the clutch.

Please explain this in more detail - what exactly is your problem?
What you've written doesn't really make sense to me.

Your drifting lanes suggests you could work on general road stuff Smile.
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dhxt125x
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 30 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
dhxt125x wrote:
the moment I'm on dirt I don't stutter the bike with the clutch.

Please explain this in more detail - what exactly is your problem?
What you've written doesn't really make sense to me.

Your drifting lanes suggests you could work on general road stuff Smile.


The clutch stock from the shop (brand new bike) wasn't responding fast enough for my liking so my dad adjusted it now I've got to find the biting point for taking off, every thing else seems okay. I'm letting the clutch out slowly and stalling it, either that or too much gas. - practice

Main issue is weather conditions e.g. wind
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 30 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems unlikely the clutch was actually acting too 'slowly', more likely is that it just didn't feel right to you - lever in a different place.
This is just a case of practice and should only affect pulling away - otherwise the clutch should be fully in or out.

Cross winds are challenging, but mostly need a good focus on what's going on - you can often need to lean in to it, but that does mean a gust can send you of course, still.
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dhxt125x
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm fine now, Just yet to tackle open road, I was going through a busy town and a biker in front was really nervous, he kept putting his feet down when we stopped 50cc blue motorcycle, then sped of down a straight road. Made me more confident, and the clutch is only a problem when indicating now. I'l have to stay in 2nd gear each time I come to a junction and when I actually do stop change down to first if the bike struggles to ride off, because it's a 125 1st gear is High up on the revs if it's over 15-20mph (not like really high but louder than normal)
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

dhxt125x wrote:
I'l have to stay in 2nd gear each time I come to a junction and when I actually do stop change down to first if the bike struggles to ride off, because it's a 125 1st gear is High up on the revs if it's over 15-20mph (not like really high but louder than normal)

Been riding a c90 a bit recently and you do have to keep it in second coming up to junctions (rest of the time I'm riding a GSXR1000 where first gear to over 100mph Smile).
On what ever bike, I'd always drop it down to first gear to pull away.
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

When riding on the road and encoutering cross winds - grip the petrol tank with your knees and relax your arms. The reason the bike deviates is due to you getting bufffeted and then changeing the bikes direction.
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dhxt125x
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 31 Aug 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paxovasa wrote:
When riding on the road and encoutering cross winds - grip the petrol tank with your knees and relax your arms. The reason the bike deviates is due to you getting bufffeted and then changeing the bikes direction.


I sussed that out when playing with counter stearing on the road, the wind will be pushing me and as I move I'm moving the bars right?

My 6th or 7th ride (in my life) And I'm riding well now, and to say the first time I sat on her I broke my ankle in a pretty kickass accident at 44mph says somthing. First bike & geared = win Smile I dropped it today though, Got to cocky forgot my wheel was turned and poped the front break on sand it slipped out and pushed my foot (stretching the foot that ain't been used for 9 weeks - healing process) Thanks to all those who've helped me Smile

I'l be practicing weather / terrain riding now then wheelies lol I get paid sick allowance + My insurance pays me the exact same ontop! so I'l be earning about double the ammount. Pays to be a nurse
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