W7 using far too much memory

[Misc]

Morning,

Installed a fresh Windows 7 & it was immediately slow adter everything was installed. In Task Manager the memory was showing over 1gb & it looked like 'Trustedinstaller.exe was the cause so i set it to manual instead of automatic & that's only seemed to free up a tad of memory. The memory is currently showing over 800mb with physical memory not going below 45%.

Just to add, this was with no software installed, just the basics. And i've installed W7 a couple of times before & been running it for a while so doubt it's hardware related (Using it an hour before the new install).

Any ideas?

Thanks.

[Hetzer]

Using over a gig is normal for W7.
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[neil.]

Would assume that it's using a large portion of RAM for cacheing (i.e. storing stuff that's recently accessed or what it thinks it's going to access, so that when it does, it'll fetch it faster, as RAM is quicker than the hard disk). This is a good thing, rather than leave bags of RAM unused. The cache will shrink and expand dynamically, as applications want more or less memory.
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[Stevie GooGs]

I only have fecking firefox and outlook running and im using 3gig o ram, not sure if w7 has searchindexer running, i find that eats the Ram.
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[doggone]

There seems to be a fair old list of updates to install too now, is it doing that?

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Thanks all.

[el_oso]

mine uses about ~600Mb when it first starts up. usually uses about 1gb when i have almost everything open like office, media monkey, gom player, adobe, jdownloader, chrome/opera etc
trustedinstaller.exe is part of windows update. may need configuring or it is set on auto-update may be performing updates. either set it manual and check for updates yourself or make it check for updates weekly as i believe it checks for updates daily.
i find that windows 7 is much better at releasing memory it is not using compared to vista and XP. after a using win7 for a full day as soon as i close all my program i got back to only using 600/700mb of memory. XP was a pain and never really seemed to give you back memory that you were not using any more
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[Hetzer]

W7 will take RAM dynamically according to how much you have. Mine takes more with 4gb than it did when I had only 2gb. The amount out of 2gb it takes will also vary depending upon your particular setup (hardware and programs etc).
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[Hetzer]

x64 likes at least 4gb and quad-core processors.
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[L4Isoside]

Mines using 1.79 gigs just browsing

Then im pretty sure it uses a % of ya overall memory, i have 6 gigs and so i dont miss it at all tbh.

Even rendering videos it didnt use over 3gigs i think.

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[el_oso]

if you are using a 64bit win7 800Mb sounds about right for startup. 64bit OS must more memory than 32bit OS simply because it has 64bits of memory to address instead of 32bits due to bigger pointers...bla bla bla.
not really much point in using a 64bit OS unless you have more than 3Gb of RAM. just wasting RAM addressing memory that isn't their. however, there are other benefits of a 64bit OS other than expanding memory capacity to greater than 4Gb. But that's a whole other story and not really worth it as most programs are not built specifically for a 64bit OS. only example i can think of is 7zip. so unless you are going to be using a lot of compression algorithms or working with files larger than 4Gb i.e. DVD/video editing then switch back to a 32bit unless you upgrade your RAM (or plan on upgrading your RAM)
everyday users will not need more than 3gb. things like web surfing, office and playing videos/music will not need more than 3gb. i suspect your processor will run out of steam before your RAM does
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[Hetzer]

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[el_oso]

no. you will not notice a difference. you might save about 100Mb of RAM tops and for normal day to day task you will not reach the 3Gb capacity of the RAM.
if you do want to make sure you have a bit of headroom find an unused flash drive (or buy one for about £2/3) and use readyboost.
personally i would stick with it how it is. that's because i'm kind of lazy and i do actually use files larger than 4Gb and do frequent compressing/decompressing of files.
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[tsmith]

W7 32bit on my 4GHz P4 with 2GB RAM uses ~600mb with just Avira Antivir and Comodo Firewall running. If you use a ready boost device, format it as EXFAT - quickest file system for them. FAT32 has a 4GB limit and NTFS is slower.

[Frost]

I'm using 1.1gig or ram and currently have running:

Matlab
Chrome with about 12 tabs
Search
Text editors
Few folders
GIMP

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I've got 4 gig's of ram, 2 of which have never been touched. Yet someone thought it wise to order me a laptop with a shoddy CPU and 8 gigs of ram. I'm not happy.

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[tsmith]

set the file allocation size to the largest you can. This will make it faster still, at the expense of some space lost. Ideally try and use a 4 or 8 gig usb2 stick if you can.

when you set up readyboost, you can dedicate the whole device for readyboost to use. This is what I have done with mine. Once formatted and readyboost is running, if you look at the device you will see a single large file called readyboost.sfcache

That's all I do and it works great. If you want to monitor it, download readyboost monitor from here https://area-71.net/rbmon/

[doggone]

Does this look normal for W7?
All that's running is one window of firefox and outlook email but it's always running the CPU at 50% or more.
With XP if you weren't doing anything it would drop to near zero.

It's 64bit and there's 4GB of RAM - lightning fast compared to XP.
I'm guessing it's something about the way it shows the info which is different?


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