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Ayrton
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: 125cc? Reply with quote

im turning 17 next june and i was wondering if anyone could tell me how much it would cost me for a 125cc bike.
the bike would have to be practical, just something to drive back and foward to school, and other places.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

could spend anything from 300-2500 really, if you just want a bike to learn on and get to grips with try and buy a working bike for as little as possible (around 500)
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathandennison wrote:
could spend anything from 300-2500 really, if you just want a bike to learn on and get to grips with try and buy a working bike for as little as possible (around 500)


doesnt sound too bad then.
can you recomend me a few bikes, as i have no idea what i should get but i have seen some good reviews for this:

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/searchresults/Bike-Reviews/Yamaha/Yamaha-XT125R-2005-current/
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

For your first bike just get something cheap & reliable like a CG125.
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PostPosted: 19:37 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benson_JV wrote:
For your first bike just get something cheap & reliable like a CG125.


thanks, think il get one of those. seem cheap and reliable for what i want.

also, am i right in thinking that to get a licence to drive one of these with L plates, all i need to take is a cbt?
got £1000 at the moment, will that be enough for this bike and my cbt?
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PostPosted: 19:52 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would save a little bit more so you don't end up "risking it" without gear and such for extended periods of time.

I got myself a CG a month ago and here is a basic breakdown of how much it cost me -

£90 for the CBT
£625 for the bike
£15 for tax if you need it (I did Sad)
£200 for insurance
£250 ish for gear (helmet, gloves, pants, boots, jacket)
This is the important bit. If anything, get a cheaper bike and better gear. You will probably come off while learning and then you're two up, cheaper repairs if no fairing etc, and you'll be in a much better state with gear on. Watch videos of MotoGP/BSB tumbles to see how much the gear helps, if the same sort of thing happened in t-shirt and jeans they'd probably be missing limbs now.
You might be able to save a bit preowned, but think a little bit of the fashion part, daft as it sounds would you wear a second hand coat and jeans?
£100 for bits and bobs such as -
engine/chain oil, a few tools, spark plug, lock+cover (with seat bag to carry them), manual
£100 for petrol (yes it's a 125 but when you get it you'll go random places just for the fun of it)

So all in, about £1400, and you would be well advised to set aside some for maintenance and if things go tits up - I would say £100-200 is enough for a little 125 unless the engine explodes or something daft.

Oh, and make yourself some L-plates out of wood or thick cardboard and laminate them, the rigid plastic ones are utter shite and snap every 300 miles.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks, il set asside a bit more money for the rest of the stuff.

just one last question lol
if i get one of these would my brother who will be 17, be able to pass his cbd and drive it? i assume so, but want to check nether less.

think the worst part will be waiting untill next june till i buy it. all my friends got mopeds, but i didnt see the point buying one when i can get one of these.
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

elobire wrote:
thanks, il set asside a bit more money for the rest of the stuff.

just one last question lol
if i get one of these would my brother who will be 17, be able to pass his cbd and drive it? i assume so, but want to check nether less.

think the worst part will be waiting untill next june till i buy it. all my friends got mopeds, but i didnt see the point buying one when i can get one of these.


As long as he was on your insurance or you were on his, then yes it'd be fine.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm assuming you would only be getting third party insurance as to me it seems daft to go fully comp on a £600 bike (especially since it costs the earth for us little ones).

If so then you would both need to be insured and it will probably cost a fair bit. Two seperate policies would be 200-300 each on a little bike like a CG, if you name him on your policy it will probably be cheaper but I suspect he will have to pay at least a hundred a year insurance.

Thumbs Down on the waiting until June, but you are right, most people respect 'proper' bike riders a lot more than scooters. Mostly due to 'ped bois' and the middle aged men in dayglo jackets with a open face helmet (WTF?).
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

EdgEy wrote:
I'm assuming you would only be getting third party insurance as to me it seems daft to go fully comp on a £600 bike (especially since it costs the earth for us little ones).

If so then you would both need to be insured and it will probably cost a fair bit. Two seperate policies would be 200-300 each on a little bike like a CG, if you name him on your policy it will probably be cheaper but I suspect he will have to pay at least a hundred a year insurance.

Thumbs Down on the waiting until June, but you are right, most people respect 'proper' bike riders a lot more than scooters. Mostly due to 'ped bois' and the middle aged men in dayglo jackets with a open face helmet (WTF?).



think il tell him to get his own bike, just remembered that he always falls off his push bike nearly everytime he uses it.

what really put me off scooters is the fact that eveyone i know that has them drives them like idiots and keep racing each other around town. most of them also took the limitors off and completely wrecked the engine once they got the revs up.

my friend has a open face helmet to use on his moped, dont really see how that would protect you going into a wall.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

elobire wrote:


my friend has a open face helmet to use on his moped, dont really see how that would protect you going into a wall.


They don't.
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PostPosted: 21:56 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

EdgEy wrote:

Thumbs Down on the waiting until June, but you are right, most people respect 'proper' bike riders a lot more than scooters. Mostly due to 'ped bois' and the middle aged men in dayglo jackets with a open face helmet (WTF?).


You mean those people who are doing what they can to aid being seen, and want an open face helmet for convenience? How dare they have different wants and needs to yourself!
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benson_JV wrote:
elobire wrote:


my friend has a open face helmet to use on his moped, dont really see how that would protect you going into a wall.


They don't.


Not riding into walls is a good way around that problem Thumbs Up

You should be able to get on the road on a 125 for 1K, don't limit yourself to a CG though, the riding school I'm using use Yamaha SR 125's too, lower and wider seat than the CG and most importantly a front disc brake, the front drum on most CG's can get interesting when some car driver pulls out on you. Don't buy anything with plastic fairings though, just in case you drop it Smile
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
EdgEy wrote:

Thumbs Down on the waiting until June, but you are right, most people respect 'proper' bike riders a lot more than scooters. Mostly due to 'ped bois' and the middle aged men in dayglo jackets with a open face helmet (WTF?).


You mean those people who are doing what they can to aid being seen, and want an open face helmet for convenience? How dare they have different wants and needs to yourself!


i know what they want to be comfortable and be able to see, but the way that most of them drive i would think you wouldnt go with a open face.
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just down to personal choice at the end of the day.

I have ridden in shorts and t-shirt on the odd occasion, you just adjust your riding to suit. Obviously you can never stop some twat pulling out on you, but you ride extra defensively and accept that there is a very high risk of injury if you come off.
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not the gear choice that bothers me, it's just the stereotype. Similar to how usually tracksuit wearing ped boys drive like complete twats, around here I see the same from these guys.
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my opinion, I wouldn't ride without a jacket and gloves and some sort of decent trousers if I'm riding over 30mph, but then I don't take too many risks.

Shameless plug, my 125 (Hyosung Cruise 2) is now officially for sale, but I haven't time to clean it so haven't advertised it. You're welcome to have a look (Gloucester area)
If interested, PM me
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 04 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is indeed personal choice as to what you want to wear. Personally I won't ride without a minimum of a jacket & gloves.
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 04 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Yamaha SR 125 and it's perfect for me (and any other leaners), In 5 months I have only spent 40 pound in repairs for it and that was due to a pu, got mod 1 on Monday
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 04 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have a VERY long time to figure out what to do, and save up the pennies to do it, between now & next summer..... if you want to go for a 125.

As for the ped-bio's.... just 'cos you have a ped, dont MAKE you a maniac..... plenty of maniacs WITHOUT peds.... plenty of perfectly sane people with peds....

If you dont like thie ida of one.... you dont have to have one. No compulsion.

BUT do give a moped a bit of thought.

You dont HAVE to have a day-glo bee-in-a-bean can hairdrywer with wheels; there's plenty of alternatives, If you want to be different, AND there are propper 'motorbike' style 50's with gears you can ride on a moped licence.

Admitedly most of them are either very old, or very expensive, but if you hunt around for something like a DT50, or AR50 or similar, they are about, and would mark you out from the lads on schooters.

There's also the old-fasioned step-through moped; a two-stroke pedal & pop like a Thomas or Honda Melody (Bit girlie & Twist & Go, but they do the job), OR....

My favoured option, Honda C50. Big wheels, sort of step-thru styling, but three gears, centrifugal clutch, four stroke engine.

Dont look like a scooter, OR a 'toy-50'... looks like what it is; basic utiliterian commuter moped.

https://www.motorera.com/honda/h0050/c50/c50-2.jpg

Its a grown up bike, you'd more often see a balding old fart or middle aged women in open face hat & yellow over-trousers, than some style conciouse 'kid'.

Most popular motorised vehicle EVER built, I believe, its a cult and GENUINE classic bike.

The ORIGINAL bus-queue beater; becouse its SO cheap to run.

WORTH A THOUGHT.

Get yourself started now, do your CBT, and start building up your kit, while you get some road-miles under your belt.

And make a statement in the bike you choose to conciousely NOT do the typical 'teen' thing.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 04 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

il have a think about buying a moped, would be usefull to get used to driving first.
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 04 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

EdgEy wrote:
I'm assuming you would only be getting third party insurance as to me it seems daft to go fully comp on a £600 bike (especially since it costs the earth for us little ones).

If so then you would both need to be insured and it will probably cost a fair bit. Two seperate policies would be 200-300 each on a little bike like a CG, if you name him on your policy it will probably be cheaper but I suspect he will have to pay at least a hundred a year insurance.

Thumbs Down on the waiting until June, but you are right, most people respect 'proper' bike riders a lot more than scooters. Mostly due to 'ped bois' and the middle aged men in dayglo jackets with a open face helmet (WTF?).


You seem to suggest that he and his brother can take out a seperate policy each. Thats not the case as his brother would not have an insurable interest. One policy only or things get sticky come claim time Wink
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 04 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kwaks wrote:
EdgEy wrote:
I'm assuming you would only be getting third party insurance as to me it seems daft to go fully comp on a £600 bike (especially since it costs the earth for us little ones).

If so then you would both need to be insured and it will probably cost a fair bit. Two seperate policies would be 200-300 each on a little bike like a CG, if you name him on your policy it will probably be cheaper but I suspect he will have to pay at least a hundred a year insurance.

Thumbs Down on the waiting until June, but you are right, most people respect 'proper' bike riders a lot more than scooters. Mostly due to 'ped bois' and the middle aged men in dayglo jackets with a open face helmet (WTF?).


You seem to suggest that he and his brother can take out a seperate policy each. Thats not the case as his brother would not have an insurable interest. One policy only or things get sticky come claim time Wink


for some reason my brother doesnt seem to want to ride a bike now lol.
still considering buying the bike from cptnblack, but i would have to keep it in my garage without it moving for 10 months.
anyone know how badly this will affect the bike? i guess i could always drive it down a back lane every so often to stop it seizing up.
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 04 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much as I need to sell it, I recommend waiting til you can ride it before buying a bike. The other side is you haven't got to find the money nearer the time, its all too easy to dip into a pile of money saying you'll replace it but never do...

That said, there's a thread (probably more) that says what to do to store a bike well. Things like changing the oil and fuel and basically giving it a good service before and after storage.
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PostPosted: 00:37 - 05 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

10 months isn't too long but still, stick the battery on trickle charge, drain all the fuel from the tank and the carbs, if you can find a stable way of having both wheels off the floor then do so to save causing flat spots on the tyres (or rotate every month of so) and store in a dry place.

That should be fine for that length of time.

To be honest though, there is always another bike, there are thousands of 125cc bikes for sale, but you only want one. The odds are in your favour Wink Don't rush things.
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