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PostPosted: 07:02 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Winter Tyres? Reply with quote

Yeah I know, I havn't got a bike yet, but I'm just wondering about winter tyres....

Sorry if this is done to death but I've failed to find something relevant by searching.

So, generally, are specific winter tyres available for bikes in the same way they are for cars?
I'm sure that they would make a massive difference to a bikes ability to handle the great british winter.
Also I wondered about abroad too, Germany for instance invalidates car insurance if you have an accident in mid winter and still have summer tyres fitted. Is this the same for bikes I wonder?

Anywho, does anyone know what brands make the best winter tyres?

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PostPosted: 07:11 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A decent amount of tread and the correct inflation is an ideal winter tyre. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting question.
I'm not sure there are such differences as winter or summer tyres as you get with cars but hopefully someone will correct me if i'm wrong. Only difference i could think of would be different hardness or softness of the tyre. But to be honest i have Metzler Tourance fitted to the Transalp which are fairly hard wearing and ride all year around without much problems.
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no such thing as winter tyres for bikes no. Something with a high silica content for quicker heat up's probably going to be about as good as you can get.

No problems with insurance in the UK regarding tyres either.
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you really need to ride in the depths of winter and have unploughed roads to cope with you could consider these.
https://www.mv-motorrad.de/lshop,showdetail,2004g,e,,,10107,,,.htm
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: Winter Tyres? Reply with quote

FLV wrote:
Yeah I know, I havn't got a bike yet, but I'm just wondering about winter tyres....

Sorry if this is done to death but I've failed to find something relevant by searching.

So, generally, are specific winter tyres available for bikes in the same way they are for cars?
I'm sure that they would make a massive difference to a bikes ability to handle the great british winter.
Also I wondered about abroad too, Germany for instance invalidates car insurance if you have an accident in mid winter and still have summer tyres fitted. Is this the same for bikes I wonder?

Anywho, does anyone know what brands make the best winter tyres?

ta, flv


Generally speaking the powers that be consider riding in the winter to be pointless anyway, so why bother with specific winter tyres?

Personally, I put the Buell away and get my MZ out for the winter. The Avon Roadrunners on the MZ seem to cope OK with poor conditions, but I wouldn't be stupid enough to take it out in snow and ice.
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not really thinking of snow and Ice, more heavy rain. I guess theres plenty of tyres that will fit the bill when the need arrives.

I looked at a bike recently which had quite worn tyres so they would need replacing soon after purchase if I was to buy the bike. This set me off wondering over getting good wet weather ones.

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PostPosted: 10:38 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

For snow, wrap a piece of rope around the tyre then through the spokes, then work all the way round the wheel. It'll only last a couple of miles once you hit decent tarmac, but gives a LOT more grip in snow.

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PostPosted: 10:54 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

truslack wrote:
For snow, wrap a piece of rope around the tyre then through the spokes, then work all the way round the wheel. It'll only last a couple of miles once you hit decent tarmac, but gives a LOT more grip in snow.

https://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w215/impreza_2007/20091221_001.jpg

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PostPosted: 18:08 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suppose it depends on the bike as to what tyres are available/suitable. I like the Metzler Tourance as they are a good all rounder and suit my bike well, but they still didn't stop me dropping it in the snow this year, trying to get back on the drive.

If you're riding a sportsbike you might consider, as others have suggested, tyres that warm-up quickly and that might be a more touring baised tyre with a deeper tread to disperse standing water.

Have a look at the way Bridgestone break there range down: here, Michelin, Pirelli, Dunlop, Continental, and Metzler do a similar thing.
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grendel wrote:
Interesting question.
I'm not sure there are such differences as winter or summer tyres as you get with cars but hopefully someone will correct me if i'm wrong. Only difference i could think of would be different hardness or softness of the tyre. But to be honest i have Metzler Tourance fitted to the Transalp which are fairly hard wearing and ride all year around without much problems.


Certainly are.

They have a lot more open tread, to shift water etc. Tend to be higher profile stuff. Often come ready to screw studs in as well.

Take a peek at rally cars. They run from slicks on tarmac, all the way through to skinny snow tyres. Depending on the conditions.

I would say that running your tourance would be akin to winter car tyres.

Given that we really don't have winter anymore, is it worth the effort.
Best option get a off road type bike and fit knobblies. At least you can use it all year round for off roading in summer, and on the road in the cooler months.
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 02 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
That is why MZ's are cool. Cool


Why not ask how that MZ is doing now? Laughing Pretty sure like all of Truslack's bikes, it doesn't work.
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 04 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avon Pro Extremes.

Road legal

https://www.motorbikestoday.com/features/Images/avon_wets1_lge.jpg
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 04 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in Finland, where we get real winters...winter tyres are compulsory for cars for 4 months+ of the year, and standard bike insurance runs from April 1st until end of October. Outside that period, bikes live in the shed. If real winter tyres are available for bikes here, I've not seen them, other than the spiked ones the ice racers use.
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 04 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avon Storms are my choice of winter tyre - other brands may or may not be suitable.
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 04 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
If you really need to ride in the depths of winter and have unploughed roads to cope with you could consider these.
https://www.mv-motorrad.de/lshop,showdetail,2004g,e,,,10107,,,.htm


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PostPosted: 17:58 - 04 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always try this?
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 04 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

irc urban snow
https://www.tyretest.com/motorradreifen/irc_tire/urban_snow_sn_23/index.html
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 05 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
There's no such thing as winter tyres for bikes no. Something with a high silica content for quicker heat up's probably going to be about as good as you can get.


There are several brands on winter tyre available for bikes and scooters just nothing yet within the wider sizes but that will be changing I suspect over the next decade

Big_Ham wrote:
No problems with insurance in the UK regarding tyres either.


Not so far but questions have already been raised internally within the insurance industry after last winter concerning car tyres. The main question being is a summer tyre rated for use in temperatures above 7 degrees suitable for use when the temperature drops below freezing?

Out of interest where do you get your information that there are no winter tyre available for bikes and insurance companies aren't bothered about whether or not a tyre is fit for purpose?
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PostPosted: 07:34 - 06 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:


Aye, thats the kind of thing I was thinking of. Something with loads of room for standing water to dissipate
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PostPosted: 08:53 - 06 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

there raceing wets by the look of them not road legal a simple set of sports touring tyres corectly inflaited will work just fine thu winter!
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 06 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A pair of trelleborg army's?

https://www.trelleborgtyres.co.uk/shopimages/image_32.jpg

Possibly a bit too knobbly, but if it's good enough for the swedes etc, and they know their snow!
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 06 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those ice studs that G used, if they were put in an old tyre* on a sports bike would they work anywhere near as well? Or at least make a noticeable difference?

*wouldn't want to ruin a new one.
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 06 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr.kris wrote:
there raceing wets by the look of them not road legal a simple set of sports touring tyres correctly inflated will work just fine thu winter!


They are road legal. Check what has been said about them online.

I have seen one review, don't know how biased it is, where the guy reckons they work well in the dry and should last a couple of 1k

Forums have said that the front will last for thousands of miles but the rear will struggle after 700miles.

https://www.motorbikestoday.com/features/Articles/avon_wets.htm


https://www.avon-tyres.co.uk/motorcycle/azaro-pro-xtreme-rain
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