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Crazy Assed Goose
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PostPosted: 17:59 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Radical mood changes. Reply with quote

Often on the bike (this sunday) I will go out and ride as fast as I can, like literally the only thing slowing me down is skill deficiency, or traffic, pretty much treat it like a race track since I know the road well.

The goal is usually to get different parts of the bike or me to scrape the ground, and a bonus is to not fall off. If I have a near miss it doesn't worry me, it just eggs me on and sometimes let out a woop of relief. Then go home with a smile on my face for the rest of the day.

Other times (today) I sit in the house, and want to, want to go out, but just don't. Watch some bike videos, still don't, start thinking "What is the point, I will probably just die and piss off my family anyway if I ride like that" or I go out and ride slowly and feel as if it is a waste of fuel and squaring off my tyres, since I am not going fast, get board and go home. Or if I try to go fast I just feel unsafe so go home.

I know some of you might not agree with the first way of riding if so just leave the thread lol.

But does anyone else get like this, board if you're not going fast, and scared to go fast unless you are in the perfect mood?
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope, Just being out on the bike makes me Very Happy

But I used to get a day off work and think "cant be arsed to go out on the bike today" but then I force myself to do it (such a chore) and after getting out of the estate that mood vanishes and I'm back to Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Nope, Just being out on the bike makes me Very Happy

But I used to get a day off work and think "cant be arsed to go out on the bike today" but then I force myself to do it (such a chore) and after getting out of the estate that mood vanishes and I'm back to Very Happy


That often happens, other times when I force myself out I just feel like a vulnerable little field mouse playing with the Hawks.
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

MOST of my riding results in me being Very Happy whatever the speed...
Obviously I prefer to ride fast, but I feel that 95% of my ride is within my own limits and the conditions of the road.

I know what you mean about getting a buzz from trying to get a part of the bike or me touching tarmac - although, for me, working antisocial hours means that I can often have an enthusiastic ride at 6am when the roads are really quiet Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
Nope, Just being out on the bike makes me Very Happy

But I used to get a day off work and think "cant be arsed to go out on the bike today" but then I force myself to do it (such a chore) and after getting out of the estate that mood vanishes and I'm back to Very Happy


I get that

sometimes when i cant ride i want to, and when i can i dont because im scared of the police or something.. i usually have to force my self to go for a ride..then i like it Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ride however you like. Just don't whine when you lose your license.

To be honest, from the description I'd say you're either very young or haven't had a decent off yet. Possibly both.
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get bored a lot but only because i live in London which means to get to good roads i need to travel 20 or so minutes & by the time i reach the good stuff i'm already stressed from all the traffic, i used to try to ride faster then i should to compensate for the boredom but i've been strict about keeping the speeds right down around town.

When i'm away from all the grey i love biking, i feel much safer (obviously) too.

I've not been on the bike for over a month & i'm starting to feel the withdrawal. But then again the weather has been complete shit.


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PostPosted: 19:26 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarmacsurfer wrote:


To be honest, from the description I'd say you're either very young or haven't had a decent off yet. Possibly both.


Well yes, and it's conforming to the stereotype like that that makes me think it's a bad idea and puts me into one of the moods where I just don't want to ride.

I haven't really been hurt coming off, but have come off about 3 times.
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crazy Assed Goose wrote:
Tarmacsurfer wrote:


To be honest, from the description I'd say you're either very young or haven't had a decent off yet. Possibly both.


Well yes, and it's conforming to the stereotype like that that makes me think it's a bad idea and puts me into one of the moods where I just don't want to ride.

I haven't really been hurt coming off, but have come off about 3 times.


I've calmed right down since my accident in June, well not calmed down just considered the possibilities more. E.g. could there be a car pulling out around this next corner etc.

It amazes me how many extra risks there are now i think about them...no this does not mean i am a boring git though. I still ride to the point i'd get banned if caught.

My off, btw, took me about a month to walk like normal, so yeah it hurt like hell. Only a slow off though (knocked off by a van whilst filtering) Thats my second off.
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do indeed have similar feelings. Very similar. If im not going superfast and leaning as much as I dare then I get a little bored quite frankly. To be honest its a dangerous game - but the rush keeps me going back. I also have those days where I sit there and start thinking negative shit and time goes on and on and eventually too much time passes and I dont go out on it. And the times when I force myself then end up having an awesome ride.
Its a risky old game and I sometimes get it in my head that what would I look like from a police helicopter if they were following me. Probably some kind of crazed hooligan - I wouldnt have a clue they were there and tbh it would probably look like I was being chased by fire or had just stolen the fooker Laughing
Thats why im looking at supermotos. At least that way I suppose I can still ride like a cock but generally do it at half the speeds!
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my experience a supermoto or even a scooter will make me ride like more of a cock for more of the time than a bigger heavier sportsbike will.

I sometimes used to get the feeling that nothing could hurt me when you get ready for a sunday morning ride out, and put all your decent gear on, one piece leather's back protector etc etc. But you only have to ride slowly through town and watch a car that pulls straight out in front of you like your wern't there to change your feelings of vulnerability, and make you think about the risks.

Out on open quite roads with little traffic and ones that have corners enough to slow you down a fair bit, then you can get a buzz from climbing all over the bike, tapping up and down the gears and braking late and hard etc. But big fast sweeping roads that i could take at 80-90mph around any bend just don't inspire me to go fast, or rip past cars at every chance etc.

I can see why some riders can and have got carried away to a nasty end on quiet fairly low traffic twisty and technical routes like in north Wales for example. It's easy to ride as fast as you can until you forget about or can't react to an unexpected variable like sheep in the road around the next bend, or gravel or rocks falling from the hills above etc.

If all your riding is sunday blasts and at those take it to the limit speeds and risks, then id suggest you use the bike for other things like commuting, evening ride outs to the pub, or just for silly little mundane journeys, which might make you feel that the bike is not just an exillerating toy for use when the sun shines, the roads are quiet and your in the right mood.

I used to go to biker pub nights in jeans and trainers some nights, and that can be a way of slowing you down so much that you think shit, if i crash what is going to happen to me. The other thing that sounds obvious but i don't know if you have done it is to get on a track day with your bike, so that if you want to explode maximum acceleration, braking, lean angles and fast cornering etc, that you have a controlled and safer situation to do so in.

I can say that i never have used a 600 to the limits of it's top speed, braking, acceleration, or cornering speed on the roads, and i never would either.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just ride within my limits, i seem to always have the same mental state, and it only changes on a ride on and off really. Sometimes i'll take a section fast, sometimes i won't. But what i can say is in town i stick well below 30mph usually, it's the one limit that really does save you or someone elses life imo.

Far to many nutters opening doors etc and i hate the blurry feeling i get with so many things moving on either sides of me in town centres, so 30mph max no matter what.
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it is far more satisfying to ride 'smooth and safe' quickly than it is to ride 'LukeVFR' quickly.

'LukeVFR quickly' will see you damaging your carbon wheels, and 'smooth and safe' quickly will see you through a long and reasonably safe biking career.
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
In my experience a supermoto or even a scooter will make me ride like more of a cock for more of the time than a bigger heavier sportsbike will.

I sometimes used to get the feeling that nothing could hurt me when you get ready for a sunday morning ride out, and put all your decent gear on, one piece leather's back protector etc etc. But you only have to ride slowly through town and watch a car that pulls straight out in front of you like your wern't there to change your feelings of vulnerability, and make you think about the risks.

Out on open quite roads with little traffic and ones that have corners enough to slow you down a fair bit, then you can get a buzz from climbing all over the bike, tapping up and down the gears and braking late and hard etc. But big fast sweeping roads that i could take at 80-90mph around any bend just don't inspire me to go fast, or rip past cars at every chance etc.

I can see why some riders can and have got carried away to a nasty end on quiet fairly low traffic twisty and technical routes like in north Wales for example. It's easy to ride as fast as you can until you forget about or can't react to an unexpected variable like sheep in the road around the next bend, or gravel or rocks falling from the hills above etc.

If all your riding is sunday blasts and at those take it to the limit speeds and risks, then id suggest you use the bike for other things like commuting, evening ride outs to the pub, or just for silly little mundane journeys, which might make you feel that the bike is not just an exillerating toy for use when the sun shines, the roads are quiet and your in the right mood.

I used to go to biker pub nights in jeans and trainers some nights, and that can be a way of slowing you down so much that you think shit, if i crash what is going to happen to me. The other thing that sounds obvious but i don't know if you have done it is to get on a track day with your bike, so that if you want to explode maximum acceleration, braking, lean angles and fast cornering etc, that you have a controlled and safer situation to do so in.

I can say that i never have used a 600 to the limits of it's top speed, braking, acceleration, or cornering speed on the roads, and i never would either.


I do use the bike for short trips and would for commuting but have nowhere to go lol.

I use the bike all week but often it is what it is and a car would be just as good.

I want to do a track day but live in newcastle so no tracks local and don't have a van and am too young to hire one.

What's this LukeVFR fast?
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer a more clinical feeling, i prefer to calculate stuff and get stuff right rather than just outright nutty riding.

That doesnt mean slow, however someone who is taking in no observations or doesnt care about coming off will ride quicker than me on the road in most situations.

I find it more rewarding to take lines and apexes nicely, get in the right position (body and bike) before a corner, and I do like late braking.

I like (and still and constantly) try to get the weight correct with cornering, i.e. brake putting weight on the front, then tipping into the corner and coming off the brake and then bringing the throttle on to shift weight back constantly through the corner.

Technically, I can ride much quicker than observations allow me to. If I ride normally, its quick but safe.

Occasionally I have nutty riding but tend to reign myself in.

My worst riding for some time I think was at the start of this summer, because of the job i do now, i work from home so dont commute much on the bike, I also spent nearly all of the winter (best part of 4 months) out of the UK last year, so went away in 20c weather and came back to 1-2c, then only got on the bike as it started warming up. It's took me a lot of summer to get the same feel and confidence back that I had.

Generally in road riding, I never really feel on the limit for cornering, braking i enjoy getting quite close, but I can still have good fun riding.

At the end of the day, if you dont care about going home that day, you can ride REALLY fast, but you wont do it forever. Once you realise this, you end up automatically calming it down a bit or do track days.
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: Radical mood changes. Reply with quote

Crazy Assed Goose wrote:
Other times (today) I sit in the house, and want to, want to go out, but just don't. Watch some bike videos, still don't, start thinking "What is the point, I will probably just die and piss off my family anyway if I ride like that" or I go out and ride slowly and feel as if it is a waste of fuel and squaring off my tyres, since I am not going fast, get board and go home. Or if I try to go fast I just feel unsafe so go home.

I know some of you might not agree with the first way of riding if so just leave the thread lol.

But does anyone else get like this, board if you're not going fast, and scared to go fast unless you are in the perfect mood?


FFS, just go get laid. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was watching something on the tele the other day and the most primitive part of the brain enjoys speed and danger and this is how we ever got to leaving the undergrowth and conquer the world, maybe mate you should get into racing, Smile Thumbs Up personally I just enjoy riding all fashions and being able to get through traffic.


To me riding is the closest thing to flying a plane since you bank over to steer and just glide along the road, its a beautiful thing and Im rabbling on now so I'll shut the f**k up Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: Radical mood changes. Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
Crazy Assed Goose wrote:
Other times (today) I sit in the house, and want to, want to go out, but just don't. Watch some bike videos, still don't, start thinking "What is the point, I will probably just die and piss off my family anyway if I ride like that" or I go out and ride slowly and feel as if it is a waste of fuel and squaring off my tyres, since I am not going fast, get board and go home. Or if I try to go fast I just feel unsafe so go home.

I know some of you might not agree with the first way of riding if so just leave the thread lol.

But does anyone else get like this, board if you're not going fast, and scared to go fast unless you are in the perfect mood?


FFS, just go get laid. Rolling Eyes


Good one. Got your little ego boost out your system now?

You feeling inadequate and just needed to tell someone on the internet to get laid?
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: Radical mood changes. Reply with quote

Crazy Assed Goose wrote:

Good one. Got your little ego boost out your system now?

You feeling inadequate and just needed to tell someone on the internet to get laid?


Excuse me? You're acting like a whiney little bitch, either move to namby pamby land or man the fuck up.
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PostPosted: 08:42 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: Radical mood changes. Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
Crazy Assed Goose wrote:

Good one. Got your little ego boost out your system now?

You feeling inadequate and just needed to tell someone on the internet to get laid?


Excuse me? You're acting like a whiney little bitch, either move to namby pamby land or man the fuck up.


A more appropriate reply to some wannabe fonz telling people to get laid is?

Act like a fool and you will get treat like one.

Come on then, what would you have said to it?
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair, your first post did sound like it was written by a hormone-overloaded teenager.

Definitely do a trackday. You're three hours south of Knockhill and three hours north of Donington Park and Mallory. You could ride/drive a hotel near the circuit the night before then you don't have to do six hours of travelling in one day.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tarmacsurfer wrote:
Ride however you like. Just don't whine when you lose your license.

To be honest, from the description I'd say you're either very young or haven't had a decent off yet. Possibly both.


This ^
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PostPosted: 10:23 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to google maps, Croft is about an hour away from you (presuming they are back do bike days too).
Go do a trackday.
I've seen people ride to and from Cadwell (five hour journey or so), so that's hardly an excuse!
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If i'm out on the SV i'll happily push the bike until i feel a little sorry for it, dont think twice about 110 / 120 down country roads etc (not al the time granted - only if i'm feeling that way out) but if i'm on the CBF1000 i tend to ride at a much more respectable pace even though it's 10 fold faster than the SV... i dont know if it's because your sitting up more / less sports like, or if it's because it's got standard cans on, but i'll happily "pootle" along at 60 / 70 on the same roads.

Either way i enjoy it just as much Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: Radical mood changes. Reply with quote

Crazy Assed Goose wrote:
Act like a fool and you will get treat like one.

Go look in the mirror... apparently you're now talking to yourself.
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