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PostPosted: 19:09 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: What mileage is a lot for a heavy 1.6? Reply with quote

Evening,

For a 1.6 Golf MK4 what would be considered high mileage as i understand a small engine carrying such a heavy car would put a lot of strain on it. I remember hearing that it's definitely the case with the 1.4 but not sure about the 1.6. I'm seeing a lot over the 100k mark. Which i might add never puts me off cars, but with a smaller engine should i be concerned?
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My gf had a liana 1.6 (urg) and it had shit mpg. I know nothing about vags though.
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hazylogic wrote:
My gf had a liana 1.6 (urg) and it had shit mpg. I know nothing about vags though.


Parkers says around 39MPG for the 1.6 Golf. I've owned a few Golf's but with bigger engines & always averaged about 25mpg, no more then 35 on the motorway i'd say. So the 1.6 will be much better.
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last car i owned was a 1.3 with 170,000 miles on it. The engine was still good when i scraped it.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a mk5 Golf 1.6 FSI. Would return 50mpg on a run.

On the earlier golfs, Mk3 etc, I wouldn't batter an eyelid at buying one with 150k miles on the clock. The engines will be fine, it's the rest of the car that seems to deteriorate at that sort of mileage.

Wear and tear on the suspension, steering wheel, seats, door hinges etc.




Cheers


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PostPosted: 23:13 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
The last car i owned was a 1.3 with 170,000 miles on it. The engine was still good when i scraped it.


Blimey. Ford KA?

binge wrote:
Had a mk5 Golf 1.6 FSI. Would return 50mpg on a run.

On the earlier golfs, Mk3 etc, I wouldn't batter an eyelid at buying one with 150k miles on the clock. The engines will be fine, it's the rest of the car that seems to deteriorate at that sort of mileage.

Wear and tear on the suspension, steering wheel, seats, door hinges etc.




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Ben



Thanks.

I'd be over the moon if the car i buy reached 50mpg.Smile

Read a few reviews & it seems like the 1.6 is the best all rounder, i thought about a diesel Golf but most seem to have much higher mileage/insurance & are a few hundred quid more.

Cheers guys.
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PostPosted: 06:35 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a really grungy looking Golf diesel (M reg). It was showing approx 160k when I got rid of it and returned 50mpg at motorway speeds.

Poxty things like door locks played up though.
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PostPosted: 07:22 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 13 year old Subaru Impreza (basic model) is a 1,6 and now has 200 000 km on it, still going strong. I'd have thought it heavier than a Golf, and has permanent 4WD, but the engine seems fine.

I had a 1,4 Golf as a hire car earlier this year and it was so underpowered it was dangerous, even though new it had a lot less go than my old Subaru.

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PostPosted: 07:35 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Milage means very little, it's all about how it is maintained. I would rather buy a car on 150k that's been very well looked after, fsh etc than a car on 50 that's been abused.

My workhorse clio diesel averages 75 mpg.
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PostPosted: 08:18 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone who claims to get 50mpg out of a petrol 1.6 hatchback, I would be inclined to suggest that maybe their arithmetic has gone awry.

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Parkers says around 39MPG for the 1.6 Golf. I've owned a few Golf's but with bigger engines & always averaged about 25mpg, no more then 35 on the motorway i'd say. So the 1.6 will be much better.


Parkers, being such a large database, seem to generalise with their fuel consumption figures. At least where my car's have been concerned so far. They do a good job, but I just can't match what they claim on fuel consumption.

They quote 39mpg for my car (04 Civic 1.6 Auto), I so far haven't got better than 30. Would improve on the motorway I would assume, but I wouldn't expect over 35.

The 2.0L mondeo estate we have recently got is currently returning slightly better than that.

Similar kind of work they do, running about on fast-ish single carriageways and country backroads.

I used to think smaller engine = better fuel consumption, but apparently not.

I am probably overly particular about history on cars, but I wouldn't touch a petrol over 100k, personally. Depending on manufacturer it isn't the engine that concerns me, but the chassis. Bushes, suspension components, bearings, brakes (ok brakes are consumable). But all start needing attention, often before then.

Diesel, not a problem, diesel engines are a lot tougher in every respect. So even though chassis issues are the same, at least you get reasonable peace of mind with the engine on a high mileage diesel.
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone. Thumbs Up

Chalky, mileage doesn't really bother me unless it's a small engine with a heavy car. My last car was a 1.8 turbo Golf & the car is so heavy that even that is no faster then your average family car, so something like a 1.4 i'm guessing would really struggle with high mileage regardless of how it's maintained.


WildGoose, would be weird if i didn't more then 30 from the 1.,6 Golf, mainly because it'll be the same model/year as my previous Golf's which all had big engines & would average about 34/5mpg on a long road in 5th (from memory)

Saying that, my sister recently had a new Polo courtesy car which was terrible on fuel, that was a 1.0.

All of my petrol cars have been over 100k & can't comment of reliability as i usually sell them after a few weeks. Embarassed Laughing But my first Golf had about 125,000 & drove like new. But there's no avoiding the parts you listed.
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd much rather go for a high mileage car that has spent most of it's life on the motorway than a low milage one that has just been driven round town. Being used properly ie lots of motorway miles places much less stress on every component as long as it is maintained correctly be it 1.4 or 3.4.

My Mrs has a 1.4 which she uses just for round town 2 minute trips. The car has covered 64,000 and is wrecked, the engine sounds tappety, the exhaust has to be replaced for a pastime and the battery constantly needs replacing. I service it every 6 months regardless myself so it is not badly maintained.

I own a heavy 1.6 Megane Scenic 2003. I have done nothing but motorway miles and have covered 110,000 in it. With the same servicing regime I have had to replace nothing on it and the engine still sounds sweet as a nut.

I'd always stick with a petrol unless milage warrents it as modern diesels are so expensive to repair ie DMF/injectors/High pressure pump which seem to go much more regularly than on the older bulletproof diesels.

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PostPosted: 15:16 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't see you getting 50mpg from a 1.6 petrol golf - good luck with that.
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mates 1.6 02' plate Golf does about 40MPG he says, even though it says it averages 33 on the clocks. Saying that he uses nothing but that Shell premium stuff cos he's a little German Thumbs Up

My Bravo does about 45MPG, couldn't believe it was a 1.2 when I got it, it's underpowered for the size of the thing to say the least Shocked
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 11 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mate had a 1.6 Mk3 golf with 160K on the clock and had no issues.
He also had a 1.6 Mondano that had 130K on the clock, again no engine issues.

The 1.6 VAG engines are in a low state of tune for plenty of torque so wouldn't have an issue IMHO. Its not going to set the world alight but should see you to the shops and back.

The 1.8 20V has a few cambelt issues at high milages so it might be worth going for the 1.6 as the pick of the bunch.
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 11 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

binge wrote:
Had a mk5 Golf 1.6 FSI. Would return 50mpg on a run.

Ben

I've never heard such bollocks in my life.

I have a mk5 1.9 TDI and I only manage 48-49MPG with extensive motorway driving.

Parkers only has the 1.6FSI up for 40MPG and they are usually optimistic, it has mine up for 53MPG which I have never even nearly got ever.

I had a mk1 1.6 Focus and it would return 36-39MPG which is average for a 1.6 engine.

As for mileage, I wouldn't buy a 1.6 petrol with over 100k on the clocks. My mk5 diesel has 81,000 on the clocks and is running sweet as a nut, no suspension issues, first MOT due in November.
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 11 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again everyone for the help.

Guess i'd be happy with anything over 30mpg around town, i'd struggle to get near that with my previous cars.

daFailedStuntman wrote:
Mate had a 1.6 Mk3 golf with 160K on the clock and had no issues.
He also had a 1.6 Mondano that had 130K on the clock, again no engine issues.

The 1.6 VAG engines are in a low state of tune for plenty of torque so wouldn't have an issue IMHO. Its not going to set the world alight but should see you to the shops and back.

The 1.8 20V has a few cambelt issues at high milages so it might be worth going for the 1.6 as the pick of the bunch.


My last car was the 1.8 20v turbo, which is the reason for getting a 1.6. You get all the expensive costs of owning turbo, but none of the performance. The n/a gti's are just as bad. The Mark 4 & mark 3 Golf's fudged them up. The other marks seemed to do a great job. (although i hear the MK3 16v was pretty decent but still very heavy)
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