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Louise
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Miles per day / Fuel costs? Reply with quote

Small dilemma for me at the moment.
Looking to move out with the other half, however the new pad is n Southampton *shudders*
I currently live in Portsmouth.
22 miles each way 'give or take. I would be making the trip 4 times a day. 88 miles in total, ive caculated the costs to be around £75 per week Shocked
Reason being, is the mrs dad has allowed us to rent one of his properties. No deposit needed so its a good offer.
I refuse to change my sons school at this moment in time as its a good school, and he likes it.
We really need our own place, and maybe some nights of the week stay where I am now, so he can see his nan/grandad.
How many miles per day do you travel!? Fuel costs per week??
Im really weighin up the pros and cons.
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Are you getting 29mpg? That is what it works out at (based on £1.10 a litre which it is round here).

My commuting distance has varied over the years. For much of it the distance was about 25~30 miles each way, which meant about an hours travelling once you take into account all the slow bits. Probably as far as I would want to go.

Have done 160 miles a day and that wasn't fun. 2 hours each way, an oil change in the car every 6 weeks and a hideous increase in mileage.

It isn't only petrol, but tyres (even if you eek your tyres out to 10k a set then that is at least 2 sets of tyres a year), oil changes, C&S sets, etc. The bike will be worthless after not a massive time. Add to that the time you will be wasting.

I understand why you don't want your son to move school and sympathise (I went through a hell of a lot of schools due to moving around and although at the time it didn't bother me, these days I am not sure it was such a good idea), but if he is going to have to move then it might be easier to do it sooner.

All the best

Keith
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Louise
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PostPosted: 15:32 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

cheers for that Thumbs Up
I looked up on the 636 mpg which is around 32mpg and the petrol is around 119 mark here.
My bike is pratically worthless with the milage right now (60k)
But the things you mentioned its worth looking at in more detail.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Didn't think it would be that bad on fuel in normal use. Long commutes sitting at 80~90 on the ZZR600 I am getting a gnats under 60mpg.

At 32mpg it would be cheaper to run a petrol car (we are getting 31mpg from a 2L Alfa 156, and that is a lot cheaper on tyres, parts and servicing than a bike) let alone a diesel.

One other thing, are you going to be happy taking your son down the M27 in icey winter conditions every day?

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Louise wrote:
Hi,

cheers for that Thumbs Up
I looked up on the 636 mpg which is around 32mpg and the petrol is around 119 mark here.
My bike is pratically worthless with the milage right now (60k)
But the things you mentioned its worth looking at in more detail.
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If it is long term it would probably be worth getting a smaller bike to save on fuel a 250 should easily get twice the MPG. I would consider moving your son though if you are going to stay in Southampton, how long is the journey? 22miles in rush hour with a pillion must be 40 mins+ that is 3 hours a day you will spend on the bike. As it is rush hour and school mums are some of the worst drivers around the risk of accident is something I would be worried about especially with a young pillion.

If you are gonna move your kid it is best now right at the start of the year as opposed to later. How long do you envisage living at this place?
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is where we need to talk, to figure the pros/cons.
She drives 1.1 diesel Pug, so come winter she can take him.
Altho I plan to pass my driving tests by then so I would be able to take him myself.
As for the M27 - I think ill prolly go the back route. takes 20 mins more but I feel it would be alot better then sitting at 70 on a busy motorway.
Theres alot of talking to be done, but very little time to give a yes or no as he wants to sell if I dont take the offer.
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't personally you can get places in Portsmouth any benefit from this place is outweighed by the fuel costs and time IMO.
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup agreed.. running of the bike/time/kit for Josh, getting him ready for and after school is time wasted and allot of effort.
However being offered a place rent free is a big bonus for us.
Agents around here want £1600 upfront deposits, even privatly there asking for £800 - and in my world, its not possible right now.
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Tend to agree, and the time is the biggest factor.

One other point is that with your son living an hour from school he will be isolated from school friends. From experience as a kid this is bad enough even when you are old enough to make your own way round.

All the best

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PostPosted: 16:12 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
From experience as a kid


Is that why you made friends with motorbikes instead Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

You may joke....

Possibly is a factor in why I am a hoarder

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol ^^^ Once school ends, he is home, or at the park.
I dont know any of the mums, and dont talk to none one there.
He has close friends at school, but they remain at school
So that isnt an issue.
plus living 6 floors up I dont allow him outside either - sounds harsh but with people these days I dont trust anyone.
he gets out with me alot, parks, days out so dont think im a harsh mum Laughing
New place is a house, with a park right oppisite.
Spose the real question is to ask him and see how he feels about starting at a new school Question
This is really tough lol Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't do it.. On paper things look ok, but when you really get down to it it will grind and wear you down massively to the point that any benefit of moving will be destroyed by the time sucked up in working. For short periods maybe but until your child is out of school?

Nah....
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 09 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having done that commute fairly regularly in the past, it gets boring quickly. The afternoon run wouldn't be too bad 25-40 mins depending whereabouts in Scum you are gonna be. For the morning run however, you'd be looking at probably doubling that without adding the extra time for the obligatory weekly accident that slows eveything down even further... Thumbs Up
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