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sparkywilliam...
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PostPosted: 09:45 - 10 Sep 2010    Post subject: Where to teach legally with out insurance Reply with quote

I want to teach my g/f clutch control and get her to do some figure of eights before she does her CBT so it's not such a new experience for her.
Can anyone suggest any places that are not covered under the usual rules of the carrigeway?
ie. if i did it on a deserted air field and police saw us would we be done?
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Chalky.
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 10 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anywhere on private land would be ok if you had the owners permission.

TBH though, a quiet carpark or industrial estate would be fine... any bother just expain what you're doing and I'm sure they wouldn't mind.
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 10 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it was the 1993 revisions to the RTA extended the defanition of public road to 'Any Place with Public access' so they coild nail twockkers on parks & car-parks & the like.
Bit of a double edged sword that bit of legislation!

However; if you were to get your lady riding round an EMPTY super-market car-park or the like, and you were not endangering any-one, or causing a neusance or doing anything 'daft' like teaching her to wheelie of donut, and the BIKE was taxed & Insured & you were there supervising her, and had your licence on you, if any coppa DID come and 'have a word', pretty sure they would be OK with it; applying a bit of common sense, they'd see that only consequences are likely to be your bike getting scratched up, and they'd probably only be interested to check that you weren't louts razzing a nicked bike about.
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sparkywilliam...
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 10 Sep 2010    Post subject: Where to teach legally with out insurance Reply with quote

she wouldn't have insurance
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 10 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

To be legal it would need to be private land with the owners permission and limited access.

While a quiet car park might well be OK, if anyone did decide to get nasty about it they would do your gf for riding without insurance and you for a similar offense for allowing her to ride your bike without insurance.

While I would hope that the police would show some sense, I wouldn't bet on it. After all if you were the copper called would you be willing to risk the consequences of allowing someone to carry on riding without insurance if something subsequently happened.

All the best

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PostPosted: 14:41 - 10 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
and you for a similar offense for allowing her to ride your bike without insurance.


Is it an offence to allow test rides then if you do not explicitly ask if they are insured and receive a 'yes' in response?
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Ste
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 10 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
Is it an offence to allow test rides then if you do not explicitly ask if they are insured and receive a 'yes' in response?

As the registered keeper of a vehicle it's your responsibility to ensure that anyone using the vehicle is properly insured. If you allow someone to ride your bike (doesn't matter if it's a test ride or if you're letting a mate have a go) and they get busted for not being insured then you could be done for allowing them to ride your bike without insurance.

Either you've allowed them to ride your bike without insurance and you'd get in trouble for that, or the person riding your bike has taken it without your consent in which case they'll be in trouble for that in addition to the offense of riding without insurance.

It doesn't matter what you've explicitly asked or not asked, either they're insured or they're not and if they're not insured then you can get in shit for allowing them on your bike.
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nick_harris
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 10 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just find a quiet, open, flat area. Car parks of your local supermarket are great! Worse comes to the worst deny she was on it. But really, i doubt anything would come of you trying to teach your gf as long as it's not around other people. Cool

(I've also heard these empty car parks are great for pratting about and racing...but that's just what i heard Wink )
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