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The Artist
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 11 Sep 2010    Post subject: Can police do this Reply with quote

If you are caught with no insurance, can they crush your vehicle?

I know with no tax they can, no license etc but I thought no insurance was just big fine and 6 points on average.

If it is taxed, motd and you have a license then I am sure they won't but someone I know claims the police threatened him with crushing his vehicle.
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 11 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

They can impound the vehicle if it has no insurance. They will also offer you to sign it over to them.

If you sign it over it will get destroyed.
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 11 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

And charge you a ridiculously high amount to get it out. If you don't after an amount of time they will crush it.
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PostPosted: 11:34 - 11 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes but surely you can get it back after if you pay a fee and pick it up either by getting insurance and riding back or a van.

Even if you didn't it would be sold.

It isn't like with no tax where if you don't pay it is just crushed.

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Just seen your post moonie.

Hmmm. Note to self, never have no insurance.
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PostPosted: 11:35 - 11 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ultimately yes.

They confiscate the vehicle at the roadside, you then have 14 days to pay their tow fee and impound charges and present a valid insurance. If you don't then it can be crushed.

Alternatively you can sign away the vehicle at the roadside for immediate disposal (for real bangers)
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 11 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

He lies then, our mate claims that the copper told him if they confiscate it then it will get crushed. No ifs or buts.
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 11 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riding without insurance is, in my view, a much more serious offence than riding without road tax and if one of these offences should carry the risk of having the bike crushed then it should definitely be the former. This of course isn't the case because as we all know, not paying your tax is very, very, very serious.
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 11 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly, the government clearly usues the money for a good cause so we should always pay tax., I mean look at the quality tarmac we ride on.

I taxed mine twice this year because they did such a good job on the local roads with that lovely gravel topping, I didn't think £60 covered my fair share of it.

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PostPosted: 18:55 - 11 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moonie wrote:
And charge you a ridiculously high amount to get it out. If you don't after an amount of time they will crush it.


They don't charge enough by far IMO. They shouldn't give the option to get it back.

Oh and most that are not collected on time go to auctions unless they are heaps.
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 12 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

woll wrote:
He lies then, our mate claims that the copper told him if they confiscate it then it will get crushed. No ifs or buts.


Or your friend hasn't told you the truth?
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 12 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

LosingGrip wrote:
woll wrote:
He lies then, our mate claims that the copper told him if they confiscate it then it will get crushed. No ifs or buts.


Or your friend hasn't told you the truth?


That is what he just said...
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 12 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe as the law stands there is a grace period after seizure where you can produce insurance documents and they will return the vehicle. If you don't produce documents, then they'll crush it.
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 12 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is not the police that fine you it is recovery companies charge and storage costs. the police receive no money from it. as previously mentioned you get 14 days in which to produce valid insurance for the vehcile to have it released.
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 12 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:
Yes but surely you can get it back after if you pay a fee and pick it up either by getting insurance and riding back or a van.

Even if you didn't it would be sold.

It isn't like with no tax where if you don't pay it is just crushed.

EDIT:
Just seen your post moonie.

Hmmm. Note to self, never have no insurance.


As far as i'm aware, the bold part isn't possible.

They won't release the vehicle until you produce valid insurance for the vehicle. If you picked it up in a van or whatnot, what's to say you won't just ride it again as soon as you get home?

Of course you could just cancel the insurance straight away and do the same.

I could be wrong but that's how i am led to believe it works.
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 12 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pretty sure you can 3-4 day insurance online for bikers, Aimed at people going on euro trips but it will be valid
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 12 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

lnewland wrote:
It is not the police that fine you it is recovery companies charge and storage costs. the police receive no money from it. as previously mentioned you get 14 days in which to produce valid insurance for the vehcile to have it released.


Isn't it a set rate at £150 + (£10 or £12) a day? In which case, someone does well out of it at least...
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 12 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

£105 plus £12 per day storage, last time I saw that offered. Not to me I hasten to add, clerical error on mate's insurance cost him loads of dosh.

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PostPosted: 18:16 - 12 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

think it changed about a year ago. its now £150 + 20 a day
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 12 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
They don't charge enough by far IMO. They shouldn't give the option to get it back.


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clerical error on mate's insurance cost him loads of dosh.


Well if it was not his fault then he should have claimed it back from the error maker.
Unless it was his fault for not checking the details they supply on the cover note Embarassed
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 12 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
Finglonga wrote:
They don't charge enough by far IMO. They shouldn't give the option to get it back.


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clerical error on mate's insurance cost him loads of dosh.


Well if it was not his fault then he should have claimed it back from the error maker.
Unless it was his fault for not checking the details they supply on the cover note Embarassed


Cover note was correct, the info put on the database wasn't, so it appeared that his bike was uninsured. He's in the process of claiming the dosh back but it's taken 3 months so far and they're being a pain.

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PostPosted: 20:30 - 12 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

N.C wrote:
pretty sure you can 3-4 day insurance online for bikers, Aimed at people going on euro trips but it will be valid

www.dayinsure.com
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