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c-m
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: A Kawasaki is the safest bike to ride Reply with quote

Human eyes are most sensitive to the colour green.

By that rational, green motorcycles are easier to spot than other colours.

Was thinking about this when I had my old ZXR750. Ok it was blue but i added the front fairing from a K1 model.

As dusk approached and darkness fell the blue on the bike became less and less visible, but the green parts of the fairing were still visible.

So continuing this line of thinking.

If everyone rode Kawasaki bikes (or painted there's lime green), then there would less, "oh i didn't see him" type accidents? (all things being equal)
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but there'd be a lot more accidents from gearboxes seizing, wheels falling off, fuel tanks spontaneously exploding etc etc.
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The human eye can indeed see more variations of green than any other colour but visibility is defined by contrast and whilst certain shades of green are visible against black. Yellow and black are the most ideal colours. This is why hi vis and traffic bollards tend to be yellow to contrast black(night time). Driving glasses also tend to be yellow glass as this brings the contrast up making things more visible. Yellow filters tend to be used by photographers on black and white film to bring out more contrast too.

Just think, british racing green is pretty dark and something that colour wont show up well but you can't really get a dark yellow as it becomes brown or orange in colour and isn't really yellow anymore.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe that's why I've never (touch wood) been pulled out on. Both the bikes I've had so far have been yellow and black.


Or I've just been lucky so far. Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least this won't happen to you:

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/222889/images/Generic_Accident.jpg

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PostPosted: 14:44 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gmanxiii wrote:
The human eye can indeed see more variations of green than any other colour but visibility is defined by contrast and whilst certain shades of green are visible against black. Yellow and black are the most ideal colours. This is why hi vis and traffic bollards tend to be yellow to contrast black(night time). Driving glasses also tend to be yellow glass as this brings the contrast up making things more visible. Yellow filters tend to be used by photographers on black and white film to bring out more contrast too.

Just think, british racing green is pretty dark and something that colour wont show up well but you can't really get a dark yellow as it becomes brown or orange in colour and isn't really yellow anymore.


Yellow is another.

Hi-vs gear comes in Yellow, Green and Orange.

Night vision goggles display in green.

At a purely chemical level the photosensitive pigments that evolution
has landed us with happen to absorb mid green light best.
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Green will blend in with the hedge row, red is what you need Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: A Kawasaki is the safest bike to ride Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
If everyone rode Kawasaki bikes (or painted there's lime green), then there would less, "oh i didn't see him" type accidents? (all things being equal)

No.

Some people manage hundreds of thousands of miles without incident, other people get knocked off regularly by people who didn't seem them.

Defensive riding, good road position and other similar road craft skills are what reduces the number of SMIDSY crashes.
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paulington wrote:


How in the name of hell did that manage to happen?!? Shocked
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess that they hit the accelerator rather than the brake Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: A Kawasaki is the safest bike to ride Reply with quote

c-m wrote:
Human eyes are most sensitive to the colour green.

By that rational, green motorcycles are easier to spot than other colours.



If something is the same colour as the background it appears against, its less visible, so green is fine on city streets, but riding around roads in the countrside, with hedges either side, green is possibly the worst colour.

In fact for that very reason there are statistics that say crash statistics for green cars are pretty bad. It will be the same for bikes.

White or day glow yellow would be the most noticeable colour. I'd say red, but a lot of people are colour blind and confuse red with green.
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

c-m wrote:


Yellow is another.

Hi-vs gear comes in Yellow, Green and Orange.

Night vision goggles display in green.

At a purely chemical level the photosensitive pigments that evolution
has landed us with happen to absorb mid green light best.


I was trying to explain it in a simpler term and suppose the yellow lenses example isn't the a very good example. Yes we do see more shades of green than anything else hence why green is used in night vision goggles. But what the OP wanted was to be seen in dark low light and what you need is contrast. The best colour for this is actually pure yellow rather than lime green although the difference may not be much.

Colour contrast checker

If you have a little play with the sliders on this tool you will see that against any dark background the contrast ratio with green will be high but as soon as the green becomes yellow its even higher. Orange ranks less than green but they are all work fairly well against the dark.
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: A Kawasaki is the safest bike to ride Reply with quote

Ste wrote:


Some people manage hundreds of thousands of miles without incident, other people get knocked off regularly by people who didn't seem them.

Defensive riding, good road position and other similar road craft skills are what reduces the number of SMIDSY crashes.


True.

you do realise is a light hearted thread not to be taken too seriously? Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always get a bike like Pax has.

This pic was secretly taken as Pax was heading out to work yesterday

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PostPosted: 18:05 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
You could always get a bike like Pax has.

This pic was secretly taken as Pax was heading out to work yesterday

https://sverrirt.blog.is/users/1a/sverrirt/img/c_users_sverrir_th_pictures_pink_ktm.jpg


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PostPosted: 18:06 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ note the lack of denial Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Savage- wrote:
Paulington wrote:


How in the name of hell did that manage to happen?!? Shocked


Noob reversing skills. Rolling Eyes

But top jumping-off skills. Thumbs Up Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hetzer wrote:


Noob reversing skills. Rolling Eyes

But top jumping-off skills. Thumbs Up Very Happy


Never knew gixxers had a reverse gear, thought it was just reserved for honda pan europeans Wink
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: A Kawasaki is the safest bike to ride Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
c-m wrote:
Human eyes are most sensitive to the colour green.

By that rational, green motorcycles are easier to spot than other colours.



If something is the same colour as the background it appears against, its less visible, so green is fine on city streets, but riding around roads in the countrside, with hedges either side, green is possibly the worst colour.


I agree - and aren't countryside crashes statistically more likely to be fatal? Green seems a bad choice to me.
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had my bike sprayed lime green as it was matt black and was as good as completely invisible judging by peoples reactions (usually being close enough to see at what point that actually clock I'm there and on a motorbike, despite white helmet, sidelights on and wearing flouro safety vest)

Was a toss up between Lime green, flouro orange or yellow
Being that its a Kawasaki GPZ500 the lime green won

Chap round the corner has just got a GPZ250 in the same shade of retina attracting lime green and my mrs commented how she's seen it around a lot...so the colour works (based on the fact that she's never commented on seeing certain bikes - so not 100% scientific)

Not had any close calls since doing the paint job...yet, but then I am riding like its just had a new paint job that I want to preserve for as long as possible

I also work in a breakers yard and have heard the roumours that green was supposedly an unlucky colour for a car/bike

Silver has to be the most common colour of car we get in if I had to guesstimate the most popular in our yard
(but then that's hardly conclusive as there are a higher proportion of silver vehicles out there smashing into each other/ the scenery or being twoc'd and I assume fewer green uns)

Bike wise its hard to say, but not seen any green ones as far as I can recall over the course of the last year

Silver, black, blue yellow or red again I would say are the most common colours we see as far as bikes go- not all of them come in after smashes involving other vehicles, so less than scientific
(and anything slightly crosser like or off roady are 90% stolen recovered rather than crashed/dropped or smidsy'd)

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PostPosted: 20:25 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paulington wrote:

Staged springs to mind, how the mirror snapped is beyond me.
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