Need help with bike choice

[skw012]

Hello
I have little problem with bike choice, I will try to be specyfic!
I am new in biking and looking forward to buy something special for me. My intrest are adventure and tourism, however I like a bit sports bikes. So I want to see few countries and travel across them. So I need tourism or adventure bike, however I am quite low, my height is around 170 cm. So I just can not choose adventure bike as they have rather higher suspension, because of their destination. And I would like to have rather comfortable bike and economic, Futhermore I am looking 600 cc max or 750 but this is max due to insurance cost and fuel consumption. Futhermore I am starter I do not have even CBT, but I've signed already for driving licence. Please HELP ME with bike choice, any help will be most appreciate!
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[londonbill]

[skw012]

I was rather thinking of Honda CBF 650F or Suzuki GSX 650F
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[Teflon-Mike]

Right now, you have to get your licence.
First up, you need your provisional, and then you need that 'validated' by completing a CBT course, which you'll do on a 125.
After CBT, you can use a school bike to do road-traing & get your practical tests (Mod1 & Mod 2) done.
But between CBT & Practical you'l;l also need to do your theory & Hazard Perception tests.
Many people, buy a 125 as thier first bike, becouse they can ride one on a provisional licence with L-Plates, between training sessions, for practice. (some, as thier sole means of transport, actually!)
Given the cost of training & bike hire for it, if you are going to take a loto fo practice to get up to test standard, and or it will take a while to get through all the tests, it can work out a reasonably cheap way of doing things.
HOWEVER.
If you pass your test on a 125cc bike, you only get awarded a 'restricted' licence, which prohibits you from riding a bike with more than 33bhp.
Thats about a third of what a sports 600 offers, and still about half what more conventional 600's are likely to have.
almost anything over 250cc is likely to have more than 33bhp, and will probably have to be 'restricted' for you to ride it on a restricted licence.
More power the bike you choose has, more it has to be restricted.
More restricted a bike is, generally the less rewarding or satisfying it is to ride, as it just wont 'go' like it should. Meanwhile bikes that are designed to have so much more power will also tend to be acarrying more weight to keep it in check, and have parts, like tyres and brakes and the like that are intended to contend with the added performance, that simply wont be used, but you'll still be paying a high price for as they'll still wear out pretty much as fast!
On a restricted licence, least amount of restriction you have to have the better; bike will work more like it should and you should only be paying for the performance you are using.
Bikes that work well on a resricted licence tend to be the big singles and twins; bikes like the larger trail-sports & Adventure sports, or the commuter 500 twins like the ER5, CB500 etc.
Even on an nrestricted licence, these are a pretty good choice for a 'Newbie' to big bikes, as they are soft easily managed bikes.
TWO routes to an 'unrestricted' licence. Time or Money.
If you have the time, you ride a restricted bike for two years, then automatically, the restriction lapses and you can ride any bike you want.
If you have the Money, and you are over 21, you can either opt to do a Direct Access Sceme course, which is normally a few days of intensive training on a big-bike, followed by your practical test, on a big bike, giving you the unrestricted licence straight away.
BUT, do that, and again, one of the lower-powered 'Newbie' bikes like the singles and twins is a better place to start, becouse two or three days intensive training does NO an expert rider, make you!
In the middle, there is 'accelerated Access', which IF you have passed your test on a 125 & have a restricted licence, you can, then 'upgrade' before the restriction lapses, provided you are over 21, by RE-Taking your practical test, on a 'big' bike.

HOWEVER.... from a standing start, which EVER way you go, the advice is, go for something 'soft', rather than sporty, and the ER5 or ER6, the GS500 or SV650, and teh CB500 are the bench-mark bikes for big-bike Newbies.

HOWEVER..... starting at the beginning, you have a long way to go, before you need to make those kind of choices, and the FIRST one you need to make is on your route to a full licence, and whether to buy a 125 or whether to train on school bikes. THEN whether to take test on a 125 for a restricted licence, or do DAS.

THEN when you have a licence in your pocket, you can start thinking about what bikes would be most suitable for you......
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[Slacker24seve...]

The Hornet and sports 400s are good for short arses, particularly the Hornet as it has a very low C of G as well. Not exactly an adventure bike though

Whatever you choose, don't forget many bikes can be professionally lowered and have part of the seat cut out. My instructor had an ER5 that had the back lowered, forks dropped through the yokes a few mm and a cutout seat and he said it was fine for anyone 5'3" plus.
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[skw012]

Thanks I will definitely consider this options,
I am 27 and I have money and not to much time as next year I planing some bike expedition to further parts of europe, France, Spain, portugal, Swiss, italy etc. Well I have never ridden before but I have drive licence and I am experienced driver so I know highway code rules and It shoudn't be very hard to understand the new machine.
However I think of something maximum to 600cc Yamaha Diversion, Suzuki gsx 650f, or Honda cbf 650SA, which are very nice bikes and I think for start they are going to be reasonable choice.

I have question about time? DAS giving me 8 days of 2 hours every day training on 125 and 500cc and don't you think this is not enough to gain proper skills to start riding safe. At least to be confident enough with machine to pass the practical modules? So what you think?
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