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Sam_Y_93
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 20 Sep 2010    Post subject: Trackday Questions Reply with quote

I know I have only just passed my test, but wouldnt mind getting on a track in the near future. But as I have just said, I've only just got my licence so am still under my restriction.

Would I be allowed to go on a trackday or would I have to wait till its over?
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 20 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some tracks let 33bhp'ers on but for the life of me i can't remember who it is.

But in reality 33bhp on a track wont be that fun imo, worth saving up for a decent set of tires and the day then taking it on when you've finished the 2yrs.

Unless you can rent a bike, but not sure weather you need a full license etc to use it.

Someone knowledgeable will be along shortly

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PostPosted: 18:11 - 20 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seach '33bhp' in the trackdays forum. Wink
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PostPosted: 18:35 - 20 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Seach '33bhp' in the trackdays forum. Wink


Ahh sorry didn't realise it was such a common question, well now I have had all my questions about it answered.

And am now going to look into trackdays in early next year Cool

EDIT: what tracks would be recommended for a noob?
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 20 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cant do any tracks owned by MSV so you cant do snetterton, brands, oulton, cadwell, anything else you can do restricted and id say go for it.
I did 4 trackdays restricted, one in inters, if you stick to the tighter tracks no one will even know you're restricted.
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 20 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom_B1H wrote:
You cant do any tracks owned by MSV so you cant do snetterton, brands, oulton, cadwell, anything else you can do restricted and id say go for it.
I did 4 trackdays restricted, one in inters, if you stick to the tighter tracks no one will even know you're restricted.


dammit snetterton was the one I was thinking as it's the closest by me, I'll keep looking but it wont be until next year sometime
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 20 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mallory let you out on 33bhp.

Trackdays arent all about going super fast on straights, it helps you learn the limits of your bike much better and how to carry your corner speed far better. Which is handy on a 33bhp bike.
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 20 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah thats what I want any way, I imagine by the time I get around to doing one I will be more used to the bike.

And I can do straight line speed on the roads Wink but I always get cautious on the corners cos of the shitty road conditions where I am, not to say I cant corner but only throw it in if I've been up and down the road a few times that same day
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 20 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on how your bike is restricted (ECU???), surely you can remove the restriction for the actual day. you will need to state you are on a restricted licence for registration, but presumably you don't actually need to be restricted ON TRACK (put the restriction back in when trackday over) - check this with the organiser mind you as it is only a presumption ...

With 33hp on a phatty bike, you are gonna be wanting more ...
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 20 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well its err not quite restricted at the moment Shifty its only 60 odd break so not exactly quick any way.
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 21 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

lydden hill simply check your license has your name on and is pink. no joke. but is too far from you tbh (dover).
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 21 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well looking into it Hottrax take 33bhpers according to Ham in another thread and they do days at rockingham which looking at it I think is actually closer to me than snetterton so may well be booking one of those for next year Cool
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PostPosted: 08:04 - 21 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Sister is restricted until Jan next year.

This year she's been out at;

Rockingham - No Limits
Silverstone Stowe - CSS
Le Mans - No Limits

She's also booked to do Mallory next month with No Limits

All of the ones to date she's done on a restricted VFR 400
She did however take out a mates 600 at Le Mans as she was getting a bit frustrated being passed by all and sundry.

On the 600 she was doing much better, I think the time she's spent on the restricted 400 has made a very good start for her.

She's now bought a Hanspree 600RR which she'll be taking out at Mallory and use on the roads from Jan. onwards.
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 21 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam_Y_93 wrote:
Well looking into it Hottrax take 33bhpers according to Ham in another thread and they do days at rockingham which looking at it I think is actually closer to me than snetterton so may well be booking one of those for next year Cool



the rock is a better riders track than snett anyway! do the national circuit if you go, it is more fun than the international Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 21 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam_Y_93 wrote:
Well looking into it Hottrax take 33bhpers according to Ham in another thread and they do days at rockingham which looking at it I think is actually closer to me than snetterton so may well be booking one of those for next year Cool


They do.

If you mail most companies the official line is that if you're on a 33bhp license your bike has to be restricted too. However in reality they don't even check for restriction on the day. Just that you have a bike entitlement. So I wouldn't worry about it.
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PostPosted: 09:31 - 21 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
Sam_Y_93 wrote:
Well looking into it Hottrax take 33bhpers according to Ham in another thread and they do days at rockingham which looking at it I think is actually closer to me than snetterton so may well be booking one of those for next year Cool


They do.

If you mail most companies the official line is that if you're on a 33bhp license your bike has to be restricted too. However in reality they don't even check for restriction on the day. Just that you have a bike entitlement. So I wouldn't worry about it.


if there is an official line, then stick to it. coz if you have a serious accident/coming together with someone then the police are called and the bike impounded for enquiry (I am talking fatals here not where you both get up and walk /hobble away).

not sure how detailed a look they have at your bike, but that isn't the sort of hassle / worry you want at a time like that is it!
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 21 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:

if there is an official line, then stick to it. coz if you have a serious accident/coming together with someone then the police are called and the bike impounded for enquiry (I am talking fatals here not where you both get up and walk /hobble away).

not sure how detailed a look they have at your bike, but that isn't the sort of hassle / worry you want at a time like that is it!


Meh, I'm sure the OP can decide that for themselves.

I wouldn't have thought the police would be too interested in your bike since it's not a public road.
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 21 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if they don't check the restriction and lets face it it's fairly unlikely I will kill any one so when it comes to it I think there will be no restrictions, as lets face it 33bhp on a track is just too little and its not like 60 is too much either
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 21 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam_Y_93 wrote:
Well if they don't check the restriction and lets face it it's fairly unlikely I will kill any one so when it comes to it I think there will be no restrictions, as lets face it 33bhp on a track is just too little and its not like 60 is too much either


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PostPosted: 11:15 - 22 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I've already said, on smaller tracks such as mallory 33bhp isn't 'not enough', I've led novice and mid pack inters restricted
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 01 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam_Y_93 wrote:
Well if they don't check the restriction and lets face it it's fairly unlikely I will kill any one so when it comes to it I think there will be no restrictions, as lets face it 33bhp on a track is just too little and its not like 60 is too much either


Power makes it easier to disguise a lack of skill!

Being more serious, I have seen an Aprilia RS125 (superteen racer, so pretty close to stock but with a good rider) as pretty much the fastest thing on track in the intermediate group at Cadwell. Also seen a Yamaha SZR660 as one of the fastest lapping things in the fast group at Silverstone (might well have been tuned to hell, but still nowhere near the straight line performance of a stock litre bike, and Silverstone is a fast track).

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