Careers, those in the know....

[_Will_]

What are the most secure and /modest/ paid careers out there?

I'm still quite young with plenty of time to train and find a decent direction in life, i have a few what seem to be useless letters in a much too competitive, saturated market.

So lets say i make a clean sheet, i can do evening/home/part time courses (not full time) in *said area*

Now when i say modest, i mean enough that i can comfortably support my family enough that my fiancee only has to work part time.

If i were to put a figure for money as it is now, it would be £30-35k which would do me fantastically, then i can do what i /want/ on the side for a little extra or make it up to said figure.

Now i wouldn't consider myself inept, i'd say i'm able to do a fair spectrum of things and find i have an aptitude for a variety.
(I certainly see a great many of todays population which aren't that bright with seemingly decent jobs/lifestyles)

So, the crux of it - what be it?

Trades, sparky/builder/plumber/mechanic (a fair few of the couldn't-be-arsed brigade seem to land swiftly on their feet here)

Financial sector (too long winded/competitive for success?)

IT (again saturated beyond belief and generally need to be fluent in every acronym'd binary language known, which unless you're a 13 year old geeky oiky teenager with nothing but time isn't easy)

Dare i say Sales? (i bloody hope it isn't)

I certainly don't want to stay in my dead end hellhole.
____________________
Past -Honda qr50 | 2004 Peugeot Tkr s 50| | 1996 Yamaha XJ600s Diversion|

[Kickstart]

[stinkwheel]

Police officer?

Something in the civil service (courts, local government, revenue and customs etc)?
____________________
“Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
I did the 2010 Round Britain Rally on my 350 Bullet. 89 landmarks, 3 months, 9,500 miles.

[Pie-Roe]

Do you or are you planning to have kids?

If not, why the hell would you work lots for her to have the priviledge of being at home all day with the postman, milkman and plumber?

For me, I'd be happy to workfor 25k a year in a 9-5 low stress job with my partner doing the same.

Pyro
____________________
Previous: GSF600, FZR600 x2, ZXR750, XT600 Tenere, CB125, CZ125, ETZ 250, ER5, CCM R30, DRZ400, RF600x4, RF900x2, GS500, VTR1000F, 640 SMC, CB250 NIGHTHAWK, GT550x3, GPX750 TE610, CB500, X11x2, SV650, ZING 125, TL1000R,CB250 Superdream, CBR1100XX

[pinkyfloyd]

The most secure but modest career I know of is the career of a chef. Good thing about being a chef is there is always work and if you are good at it then you can work anywhere. Bad thing is the wages are shit!

Another secure job where you are guaranteed a job for life is an undertaker. Its a job that will never go out of fashion.
____________________
illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.

[Itchy]

30-35K isn't much anymore..

Anyway you will have to think hard about this because you have to both avoid the saturation effect and also avoid automation and potential for being outsourced additionally jobs which are not DIYable.

For instance lower end law has been hit by things like write your own will packs for £20 in WHsmiths.

Accountancy is awful! It is getting automated, outsourced AND also software is to the point that it can be DIY'd .

I would also note that if you want to be wealthy don't work for anybody else...

TBH possibly the best thing is a chippy... you can make some incredible money off that and hide huge amounts of it from the taxman too.


Or being a vet. In that vets who run their own practices virtually have a licence to print money, though it is very hard to get into.. If we go into an apocalypse scenario (which all indicators say we are going into) you will have vital skills to be a surgeon or have animal husbandry skills.
____________________
Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching.

[Itchy]

[Robby]

[pinkyfloyd]

[JonB]

[Itchy]

[JonB]

Because 99.9% of things you have predicted haven't happened. That's why, no URL, just plain facts.

I was meant to be buying bread with a HGV full of money last year? Or so I thought?
____________________
Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth.

[Itchy]

[tatters]

I would,nt bother with trades unless you know people who will take you on to train plus even as a adult apprentice you would be on not much more than minumum wage for around 2-3 years its never a get rich quick option.

Plus the only secure one is electrician and then to earn 30k+ you need to specialize and move up in a certin industry like control systems for example.
____________________
Past:NRG50,AF1125(x2),NSR125RR,ZZR250,CX500,VFR400,KR1S,ZZR600(x2),CB400N,YZF1000(x2),KH125,Z200,FX400R,CBR954RR(x2)GPZ500S,GT550,VFR750F(x2),RD350N,XR650R,CBR600F,CB250,KDX250,YZF750R,CRM250,400EXC,KLR650,TTR600RE,DR350S,R100GSPD,RGV250,VMAX1200,DL650,KZ750 Present:G650XC,C12,CRF450X,1190ADV

[_Will_]

Pyro yes i have a son, childcare is a whole wage in itself.

Hmm, vet is something that does require starting young - and i'm a little squeamish.


So many vocations now, most are useless and a fair amount of the rest are becoming autonomous with technology.

I wouldn't consider £30k beyond the boundaries of modesty, i live in the sw and earn about £19k with overtime as a warehouseman.
____________________
Past -Honda qr50 | 2004 Peugeot Tkr s 50| | 1996 Yamaha XJ600s Diversion|

[wr125x2011]

Work from home?

Adult affiliate marketing
Cpa
Drop ship on ebay.

Can easily make what your after, hell, you could make treble what you want.

[Pie-Roe]

[Shaun]

With regards to sales it's a shockingly unsecure job.

I'm doing it at the mo but at a friends company. Every week I walk away with 300 basic then once a week commission will hit and that week I'll walk away with about 800. For me it's ok since the money is awesome and being employed by a mate means I won't be randomly thrown. Very risky role in a normal situation though but rewarding if you can pull it off!

[warped one]

My mum does Home caring.

She goes round to people each morning/night and makes sure they are up, well, and such.

For around 15hours a week she gets about £500pm.

On the other end of the scale,

My mate works at a home with special needs people, he earns around £2kpm, but he has to work long hours, and rarely gets a day off. But is able to by a brand new BMW and support his GF.

It's not always the money you bring it, it is the way you use that money.
____________________
amnesia - Never in the history of usernames has one been more accurate. Warped indeed. You sir are a fecking oddball.

[colin1]

[pits]

Death business.
Funerals are expensive, coffins etc, and there is no shortage of customers

[L4Isoside]

Thinking about jobs and careers alot recently and i realise with my college national diploma in IT, really doesnt get me far.

Hell i dont have any idea what i can do

Probably end up getting stuck in tesco's for the rest of my life

[multijoy]

You mock, but the big supermarkets are one of the few businesses where you can still start on the shop floor and rise up through the ranks

Granted, you'll be a glorified grocer, but there's worse things to put on your headstone!
____________________
'11 CBF1000A, '99 C90, '98 CB500
silky666: He rode amazingly well considering his bike is the weight of a small van and had slicks on.

[nick.h]

[Suntan Sid]

Not sure if this is up to date info but 5 years ago they were crying out for engineers, all disciplines, in the UK.

See if you can get hold of some of the trade or professional publications, you can gauge what professions are lacking from the vacancies pages.

If you’re in, any way, creative, an easy route into the engineering or architectural professions is via CAD Techs, (Draughtsmen in old money).
They’re always in short supply, as long as you know your way around the software, you don’t really need any qualifications, just an understanding of the field you’re working in.
As long as you can bang out the designs accurately and on time, you’ll have no problems.