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synaptyx
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 24 Jul 2004    Post subject: Security Reply with quote

At the minute I just chain and padlock the back wheel and put the steering lock on. The bike's Alpha dotted, but somebody just wanting to scream about on it and then burn it wouldn't really bother about that. I'm looking at some kind of ground anchor, but I'm not sure what to go for, or where to install it, not to mention I'm useless at DIY. Not too confident about messing about with concrete etc. I can't put the bike round the back as the whole garden is on a slope and my neighbours wouldn't be too happy about me tearing up the green turning the bike round.

This is the layout of my front garden, I live in an upstairs flat, so it's really just an entryway to my front door.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

https://a73.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/garden-gsx600f.jpg
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Gti
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 24 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a wall anchor instead. And tie the chain around the frame, not the wheel as people can remove the wheel and have away with your bike.They'd have to be houdini to take the bike and leave the frame.

You should also try and have the chain not touching the ground as it's much easier to attack that way.[/b]
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synaptyx
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 24 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Gti, can you recommend any specific products? Smile
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 24 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is my ground anchor which I made from a piece of scrap box-section and attached the the wall and ground with 12mm rowl bolts, when the chain is through it, you can't get at the bolts. Cost me a fiver to get the local garage to drill the holes in it with their pillar drill.

This did not stop joyriders stealing my bike! they turned up with a hydraulic cutter and sheared through my (extremely hefty, through-hardened) load chain.

A steering lock would not have stopped them either as any Charva worth their burberry baseball cap knows you just have to repeatedly kick the handlebars to break them (and the switchgear) which is why I never use the steering lock. It is little deterrant and if you get the bike back there is more damage.

They did not seem to be discouraged by my CCTV system either (which had run out of tape about 5mins before they arrived Mad ) 99 pounds from Argos with PIR auto start and time and date stamp which makes it admissable as evidence.

What did stop them (and meant I got the bike back with little damage from where they had dumped it) was the electronic immobiliser. Most Neds only know two ways of hotwiring a bike, hammering a screwdriver into the ignition barrel or cutting the wires from the ignition. This stopped them, it is a Taurus system which has zero battery draw and cost about 130 quid fitted.
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synaptyx
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PostPosted: 17:27 - 24 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that stinkywheely, sounds like you're having a right old time with the chavs. Sad
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gsxrboy
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 24 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn chavs!! Sad

Is there any way you can bolt a steel gate on the the end of the alleyway and padlock it? Also fitting a security light on the wall in the alley would be good as thieves don't like bright lights, or is that vampires?

Alex
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The Tot
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 24 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had mine in my garage and tied it to a barbeque grill + gas tank which was nigh on impossible to move without having to rearrange my garage. Any other form of heavy furniture would also be sufficient. Don't overlook the use of a disk lock either. And a good piece of advice is to keep the bike covered using the dirtiest and oldest bike cover you can get your hands on. It would give an preconceived image to any wouldbe thief that underneath the dirty, ancient covers is a bike simply not worth touching. Hein Gericke i know do plastic covers which acutally allow you to loop your chain through the covers so it might be worthwhile getting= about 30 quid depending on size of bike.
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Irdawood the 2nd
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 25 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

well this is what worries me as well, im buying new and forking out like 6k for a bike is a lot, specially for some chav to come and nick it,

my bike will be left outside (no garage)
i plan to get 2 wall anchors 2 chains and locks
a sloa-larm which is MC1 insurance approved
it will have a disk lock on it
and also the factory immobaliser
oh and a cover

not sure if this will be enough
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Bendy
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 25 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want an Uber-Bastard 3000 (patent pending). Smile
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Lee_367
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 25 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You filled that with concrete or something? Cool
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Bendy
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 25 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Concrete, sand, bricks, car batteries...

It's not light. Smile
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 25 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds like an advert:

"Uber Bastard 3000!


Its not light."

Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 25 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uber Bastard 3000 Confused

You'll never get a patent for it. The product was registered in 1975 when Richard Dreyfuss, Roy Scheider and Robert Shaw used the very same product to bring Jaws up to the surface Wink
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Ste
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 25 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's also got a couple of copies of Yellow Pages in it, and a random jacket that was sitting around the garages. Laughing Thumbs Up
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loply
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 25 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anybody here wired up a DIY kill switch?
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 25 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but you have a tendancy to forget about them. A mate of mine had his bike ENTIRELY in bits wondering why it wouldn't start because he forgot about his switch.

The best one would be to run a single wire from the one going into the coils to wherever you want your switch (use a new connector or solder it on). The other terminal of the switch should be connected to earth. When the switch is ON, you can't start the bike as the spark is earthed.

This is best because it fails safe (switches rarely fail to the ON position) and you aren't actually cutting any of your loom, just splicing into it at a single connector.
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billy whizz
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could try the Hardie ground / wall anchor, fitted in 10 mins and folds flat against the wall when not in use! I saw it for £50 in M&P it's supposed to be virtually indestructable!
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gsxrboy
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PostPosted: 01:02 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not just shoot the little fuckers right in the face with a shotgun?

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d9720267
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PostPosted: 10:34 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was you I would use every security device I could think of. Just had my Cagiva Planet nicked last Monday, it had two chains "securing" it to a lamp post and a street sign, but they sliced through those in what must have been seconds. It was only about 11 pm, I can't help wishing I had had an alarm on it, would probably have scared them off. You can get alarmed disc locks that don't drain the battery, they're not too expensive either. And make sure it's insured against theft (unlike mine)!

Anyhoo, if anyone in or near Dundee gets offered a red Planet with less than 1000 kms on the clock for silly money, be very very suspicious. I doubt the ba$tard$ will be able to sell it for parts very easily, it's not a popular bike (it least round here).
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