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tjs
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: How to stop my bike getting nicked! Reply with quote

Hi all,

Hoping to pass my direct access on Monday and looking to get a bike. The only problem I have is that I have no where to park it overnight.

I live on the high street in not a great area with no designated parking or garage.

Im worried I will go and buy a bike and have it stolen straight away.

What do most people do in this situation.
Was looking at getting a CB500 or something similar.

What do people reckon?

Thanks Very Happy
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owl10
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id buy a good quality chain, and lock and make sure it is always attached to something immovable (railings etc shouldn't be a problem on a high street.

Personaly, I wouald always put a bike cover over it as well.

Although the cover wont actually stop anyone with any real intent, it is a kind of psychological barrier to anyone who may ohterwise be tempted to fiddle with things when its parked up.

Of course you could always not get a bike, store it at a family members or similar, or move!!!
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a few bikes left on the road I see on the way home, they have covers, disc locks and chains on, they've been around for a few years, so I guess it works, either that or the owner is a complete thug who is known to everyone.

Seriously, my mate is in a similar situation, he looked out for an underused garage of a neighbour and came to an agreement with the owners. I think he pays about £100/year and a bottle of scotch at xmas.
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PostPosted: 17:35 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honda CB(F)500 is a great bike. Some CBF '05+ versions have ABS installed.

As for security: chain, alarm/immobilizer & maybe a disc lock, but more importantly are your neighbors & a garage. Mr. Green Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vman wrote:
either that or the owner is a complete thug who is known to everyone.


This is also an option. Have that look in your eye, that if somebody touches your bike, you will stab them in the face with a Khurki machete. Clapping
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Re: How to stop my bike getting nicked! Reply with quote

tjs wrote:
What do most people do in this situation.


Emigrate......
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you get it in the front yard so you can get an anchor installed?

I'd say a decent anchor, chain (i.e. not oxford) and a cover and it will be mostly safe. If it's a relatively mundane bike and well secured they'll probably just leave it as it'll be two much hassle.

Cheap alarm might stop scrotes twatting around with it.
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tjs
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice everyone, mite go for SirEdwards advice Wink

No room anywhere Im affraid to put an anchor down.

I have a Oxford Boss Motorcycle Alarm Disc Lock, which I got with my scooter, there pretty expensive but dont no much about if there any good. Anyone know?

link https://www.whitedogbikes.com/item--Oxford-Boss-Alarm-Disc-Lock--Oxford_Boss_Alarm_Disc_Lock.html

Ive also got a pretty heft chain chain worth about £100.

Im thinking, to lock the bike to the railings using the chain, get a disk lock for the front, and put a cover over it.
Do we think that will do the job?

Bearing in mind Ive just seen a video of someone cracking the same chain as me in 14 seconds.
Link - https://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=19
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disc lock: Abus Granit.
Heard many stories of others being broken off rather easily (Won't go into detail)
Chain: Almax Immobiliser series 3 or 4, most others seem to be susceptible to bolt cropping.

Alarm/immobiliser is always a good option, as herulach stated!

Personally I use a YAnchor, I think for an almax chain you'd need the YMax 90, but not sure.

Hope this helps!

Edit: Just noticed your link... I saw that and lost all faith in motorcycle chains until seeing them attempt the same thing with one of their chains...


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PostPosted: 18:49 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Railings are probably not worth it unless they're huge. They're generally wrought iron and could be through with a hacksaw in not very long at all. If you're just going to chain to that you may as well keep the one you've got.

What are the railings attached to? Could you put something on the wall underneath them?
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Park it in the kitchen Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:56 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its not a indispensable test on almaxes website. It may well be true, but no way to be sure.

Put a disk lock on the front, a chain through the back/frame to something solid and alarm/cover. If you can rig a light up to it from your house/flat it would be good. Or if you live close, a wireless baby monitor stick it on your bike and in your room. should hear the bike being lifted or someone looking. But might get a fair bit of traffic noise.

After that and they still have it away, thats why you pay for insurance.

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PostPosted: 18:58 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paxovasa wrote:
Park it in the kitchen Thumbs Up


Or the lounge. When I lived in London, I had a Norton Commando in the lounge of my flat.
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't there any council garages nearby? There are about 5 or 6 plots of garages just in my area and its not very big. There are 22 in the place I park mine. Luckily its at the top of my road and it costs £8 a week. Good to keep it dry and a nice place to work on it in. Wont hurt to call your local council Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 24 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If its possible to get it indoors then thats what I'd do although I think thats illegal but better than going out in the morning to an empty space, as already said cover it, chain it, disc lock it or better still move house, come on here lets face it, the bike comes first Very Happy Very Happy Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 26 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disc lock and tatty cover.

If you don't have anything to chain the bike onto, having a stupidly expensive almax chain will be next to useless! They can still have it in a van or lift it.

What area is it? If it's london, then try and park it next to a more desirable bike.

If you're that paranoid, then simply don't get a bike until your situation warrants it. Paying excess for repeatedly stolen bikes won't do you any good either.
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PostPosted: 02:12 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a cyclone alarm and a disclock alarm on mine, I also chain it to a steel fence post.

The idea is, if anyone tries to move it the alarms will sound.

If that doesn't work then nothing will. I know that isn't helpful but there's only so much one can do before it becomes such a bother its just not worth having a bike at all.

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PostPosted: 06:33 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Tot wrote:
If you don't have anything to chain the bike onto, having a stupidly expensive almax chain will be next to useless!


Very sensible comment in my opinion. A mahoosive uncroppable chain is a total waste of time if you only fasten it to railings.

I'm in a similar situation at the moment, although I have a garage at home, I dont at my girlfriends place at weekends, or in the city when I go for the nights out.

My current plan is to use a decent disc lock and get a better 'value' chain. i.e. smaller and lighter than an almax that I can fit under the seat. That way I can use the disclock and then chain it to railings and such without carrying the almost 10kg of almax around in a rucksack all the time.
Whilst I know the chain wont stop the pro's (in truth, not a lot will) it will make me feel better and hey, every little helps. Also if its a thatcham lock, I'll save a bit on the insurance.

I might look into an alarm too, dont really know what to get though.
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PostPosted: 08:20 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Transfer this theory to motorbikes

https://www.beyondrobson.com/upload/2010/05/20100506_well_locked_bike.jpg
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 27 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:


OH NOES! Only one of them is actually attached to the immovable object Surprised
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