Putting never raced in an advert?

[Ste]

If you're looking through bike adverts and you see someone has put "Never been raced" in the advert, what does this make you think?

I think when I see that that they are trying to lie, as why would you assume the bike had been raced?. You might as well put that the bike has never been redlined or thrashed. Why would you want to put something which gives you the idea that it might have been used as a race tike? I would prefer to buy a bike which has not been used as a race bike, over one which hasn't. Also how can they show me that, or prove that it hasn't been raced? And just because they have never used it as a race bike, how can they prove to me that it wasn't used for racing before they bought it?

What would seeing it make you think and why?

[M1ke]

Most ex race bikes are pretty obvious to spot. Things like resprays, aftermarked fairing, aftermarket adons such as anodised banjo bolts and other weight saving racing stuff.

Shauns old zxr400 always made me feel like it had been raced when I saw it, nothing was standard on it and it looked like it had, had a hard life!

To be honest an ex race bike would not put me off buying it if it was mint and looked standard, but not many race bikes look this way.

When you say race bikes do you mean track day bikes as well?

[Ste]

[Spiral]

Know what you mean, when i look in the auto trader rs125's always seem to have "never been raced" in the ad which is very of putting.

There should be a hell of a difference between a race bike and a bike that might of been round the track a few days.

For starters a race bike will have spent most of its life in the red due to the rider being a total nutter which i think you have to be to
do well as a pro they are a different breed.

And thrashing your bike round a course on a track day would be far better than doing it on the A8.
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[Dusty]

To be honest I wouldn't really assume anything from someone saying a bike hadn't been raced.

In my opinion a bike having been raced is not necessarily a bad thing, as racers do tend to maintain their bikes to a high level and have a reasonable amount of technical knowledge.

I would just keep an open mind and try to judge the bike when I went to see it. If I was selling a bike I don't think I would bother stating that it hadn't been raced though, just makes it sound a bit suspicious if you ask me.
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[G]

Never raced usually seems to pop up on totally inappropriate bikes (there is a Aprilia rs125 superteens championship by the way... using road based bikes as far as I know).

What it usually makes me think is 'he obviously don't know what he's talking about'*. Especially when you see it on a VFR800 or something. This suggests that the seller isn't that 'in' to biking, so what else might they have not known about when they using their bike?
Spiral: Some people do use pretty standard road bikes for racing.
Especially if it's a superstock or similar class where not many modifications are allowed.


*Well, it is usually a bloke selling a bike, so I stand by my sexist stereotypes .

[palmer]

they say 'this bike has not been raced' kinda like saying, this bike has not had its nuts thrashed off, or this bike hasnt been abused.

basically, my bike is not broke

[Claud 14.7 to 1]

Genrally if there is something good about the bike, which will act in it's favour, the owner will state it.

ie lady owner, full service history etc.

Of course you can never belive everything that is said, they could easily be lying.

You have to meet the seller, and work out for yourself if he/she is genuine, the bike is genuine. Ie paperwork, reciepts, and the bikes condition. If it was thrashed you would probably be able to tell on a test ride, or a good look over.

If i go to check out a bike and the paper work is good, the seller is genuine and not "shifty", and the bike is in good nick I probably wouldn't mind if it had done afew track days. Depends on condition, history, and the seller. A test ride is always pretty much imperative as well.

[MarJay]

Saying 'Never been raced' is about as useful as saying 'eats blades' or 'first to see will buy' in an advert. In other words, a waste of wordage! All of the above expressions are meaningless!
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[McJamweasel]

Its not as bad as saying 'never seen rain' or similar bollocks. My reply to that is 'OK then, prove it'.

The lady owner thing wouldn't tempt me either.
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[stinkwheel]

For "One lady owner", read "Oil never checked"

I think the whole 'Never raced' thing dates back to the mid 1980s when there were loads of LCs, powervalves and X7s for sale fairly cheaply. There was quite a fair chance that any one of these bikes actually had been raced. Trouble was that they also looked mint as the original fairing and exhausts (which had been substituted for a lightweight fibreglass one and microns when racing) were in excellent condition. A mate of mine used to do a good trade in sump plugs to replace the drilled ones on a race bike in order to camoflage their history.

A lot of people landed up with a bike that looked really tidy but was in fact, minutes away from falling to bits, hence a common question was 'Has it ever been raced?'. Naturally, this found its way into the adverts.

Of course people lied about it, and still do I am sure. What used to be a dead giveaway for a raced bike (since they were wise to folks looking for drilled bolts) was to check the plugs. A cool rated plug in a 250LC means only one thing...it has spent all its life on or around the redline, they just oil-up on normal roads with a cool plug.
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[Big Pete]

Its not just dodgy old 2 strokes, fzr and cbr6`s used to be ( and cbr6s still are) very popular on the track. An ex track CBR might just get you a box of trick engine bits, an ex track FZR gets you a box of stretched rods
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[Ste]

Never crashed is another daft one people put in their adverts, as how can they prove it to me, and how do they know the previous owner(s) didn't crash it.

[stinkwheel]

Ideal winter project = Basket case

Many new parts = I still can't find the fault so I'm selling it.

Comes with box of spares = You'll need them!

Good condition for year = Hack

Future Classic = Overpriced hack.

Low mileage for year = Intermittant electrical fault

Fitted with streetfighter body kit = Crashed

New chain and sprockets fitted = If you saw the state of the old ones, you would know I have not maintained this bike.

New V5 applied for = Couldn't afford the HP/stolen

Only needs minor work for the MOT = If you count a rebore as minor.

98% complete = Except for the double overhead flange thromble that has been unavailable since 1976. = basket case

Really fast bike = thrashed to within 1" of its life

New headstock bearings = last owner was a wheelie merchant.

Those should get you started.
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[Jebus]

how about these,

New rear tire - im a burnout king

Great orginal condition - i ve not replaced anything on this since 1970

lady owner - it will need a major service

New locks - i nicked it

[mrchips]

New piston and rings - thrashed daily
Professionally resprayed decals - crashed

[Scooby]