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JodieWodie
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: I cannot believe how idiotic some car drivers are !! Reply with quote

Now...my time on the road so far has been pretty trouble-free...

a few teenagers standing in the road and staring at me and what not, but cars have been patient enough...a lot overtake and look at me, but I take it as a compliment ! HA Laughing

Anyway....my Fiance did his CBT yesterday, passed, and when he came home took my CG for a spin down some country lanes.
Upon arriving home he tells me that a man, driving a big Land Rover was approaching him on a long straight quiet road,..no other traffic on that road...just them....the LR driver was staring straight at him......then, as he gets closer to Fiance the LR SWERVED into my Fiances lane/path, and then swerves back at the last minute !!!!!!!!!! Mad

WHAT THE HELL IS ALL THAT ABOUT ?? Twisted Evil
FUNNY ? FUNNY ? IS IT ? Evil or Very Mad

Yes,....let's try and knock someone off their bike for the fun of it. Shocked

Maybe it was the fact he had L Plates on the bike...I don't know...all I know is I want to slap that mans head !!!!!! Middle Finger Mad

I mean....next time my Fiance is driving HIS car, how would foolish man like us to try and kill his son/relative on their bike ?

We have always respected bikers when in the car...I just cannot comprehend this down-right lack of common sense and decency!

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PostPosted: 10:49 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he did that to me I would have pulled a U turn and gone after him.

However, I think my bike is somewhat more intimidating than a CG 125...

Expensive gloves with hard carbon knuckle armour is always useful in that situation I find... just showing it to Mr 4x4 (I have a freudian issue) man usually has the desired effect!

Car drivers = bad.

4x4 driver = lowest of the low.
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blaming car drivers don't get you anywhere, While I was on a driving lesson I was told to go onto the fast lane of the A64 near York, Whilst I was there, 7 Bikes careened up to my tail, the car was travelling at 70 mph and they undertook, 3 even took to overtaking between my car and the central reservation! and sped off, seemingly oblivious to the fact that one slip and they are dead! also queue jumping motorcyclists really get my back up because when you are travelling in the opposing direction and motorcycles are jumping in and out of traffic (illegal) at you sometimes having to swerve to avoid some bike that should be waiting like the rest of us have to, I did on my ped when I had it, its sheer impatiance
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

symsukass wrote:
motorcycles are jumping in and out of traffic (illegal) at you sometimes having to swerve to avoid some bike that should be waiting like the rest of us have to, I did on my ped when I had it, its sheer impatiance


1) It's perfectly legal, it's called filtering
2) Theres nothing impatient about it Rolling Eyes it's a plus point of motorcycling, why wait in traffic when you can easily and safely filter to the front, we don't (usually) hold up car drivers at all so why they get arsey I'll never know.. and it means less waiting for us....but yes there are some twats who filter unsafely.. always will be a minority in everything though...
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now now children, lets not start this one again.

Riding a bike does not make you a better person.
Driving a car does not make you a better person.

I'm sure we have all seen very good riding and very bad riding, just the same as we have all seen very good driving and very bad driving. You get cunts on bikes and in cars.

The 4x4 may have been swerving around a pothole or something, I know its common practice around here. The driver no doubt thought that the brakes on the CG were as good as the brakes on his big 4x4 - If you have only driven a car, you don't know about the many different situations on a bike where you can't just haul on the brakes and stop safe and stable.

As for the learner driving complaining, if you are sitting in the fast lane at 70, expect people to be pissed off. Not your fault I know if you were told to do it, but you can't complain about being ovetaken/undertaken dangerously. It seems very dangerous from inside the car, but the bikers outside the car have lots of room and power and handling to get out of danger.

Filtering is legal, and one of the big advantages of having a bike. Its the only advantage of having a ped.
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PostPosted: 12:31 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Motorcyclists like that are quite aware that all it takes is one slip. However a lot of them do seem to have a deathwish.

I would say that you should not tar all bikers with the same brush, but admittedly I have done that to 4x4 drivers.

Maybe if you are such a fan of cages you should find a car forum however! Laughing

Seriously, there is a difference between filtering on the motorway and slightly intimidating some car drivers and a 4x4 driver deliberately driving AT a CG125 rider on L plates when it is all too obvious what the outcome would have been from 'one slip'.

Basically, the bikes are always more vulnerable, and if the biker is being a twat then he hurts himself. If a car driver is being a twat to a biker, then the biker gets hurt...

Its just a shame that so many of 'our kind' refuse to set an example to the car driver.
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
if the biker is being a twat then he hurts himself


I think a fair percentage of the more lunatic bikers work on that premise and it's crap - yes, the biker will generally be the one that gets most physically hurt. But think of the mental impact on some poor cager of having a biker splatter themselves into the front of their car. Not nice.

We were coming down the M1, about 85 in the car, outside lane. I clocked some bikes filtering their way through and shufted over the small amount I could towards the central reservation to let a couple through. Number three thought it would be more fun to go between us and the central reservation. If I'd hit a bump or simply not noticed him (why would you look in your door mirror when you're next to the reservation?) and moved over a couple of inches he'd have been toast, he'd have taken the 3 people in my car out, at least 2 cars behind us who wouldn't have a chance of stopping in time and whatever else these 3 cars carreered into. Really smart riding. Rolling Eyes If I'd happened across him at the services, we'd have been 'having words' cos I really have no time for people who ride (or drive) like that.
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The 4x4 may have been swerving around a pothole or something, I know its common practice around here.


Hang on i though the whole point of 4x4 was to go up and down massive hills, and along really muddy wet, slippery, surfaces.

Why would someone be bothered about a little pothole, if they are in a 4x4?

Yes 70 is the limit on motorways, but it is important not to annoy other road users.

Car/bike riders get annoyed FAR to easily. It takes a lot to get me annoyed on the road. Maybey becuase i have learned to become clamer to the fact. It is safer as less emotion is used, emotion clouds judgement. I can realise that some people can make mistakes.

If someone does something stupid, and i dont consider it as a "mistake", that will annoy me. But i do not get so annoyed that i defer from the action of riding.

When someone has down something wrong, I will let them know about it. I use a long blast of the horn. Sometimes a hand gesture, (but not an offensive one). I hope it will make them realise thay have done wrong.

That, and sometimes blasting away from them.
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're not right in the head around here.

As I'm approaching this junction, some idiot always tries this trick. This morning it was a taxi. I take the approach to this junction very cautiously now after having had a few close ones.

https://a73.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/junction.jpg

A couple of weeks ago at the same junction; I just checked that the road was clear left, you have to be quite cautious as the road to the left bends back behind some buildings (out of frame). Did a life saver and made to pull out and some clown performs this classic manouver:

https://a73.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/junction2.jpg

(can you tell I'm bored?)
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
if the biker is being a twat then he hurts himself

Bendy wrote:

I think a fair percentage of the more lunatic bikers work on that premise and it's crap - yes, the biker will generally be the one that gets most physically hurt. But think of the mental impact on some poor cager of having a biker splatter themselves into the front of their car. Not nice.


Thats not /really/ what I meant. What I meant was, how dare Mr 4x4 man drive at a 125 rider when he knows that he is putting someone elses life in danger and not his own? At least the biker has some risk to himself to help balance out the whole thing.

However I do not and have never condoned overtaking next to the central reservation, and in fact I believe that bikes should not overtake between lanes when the traffic flow is at normal speed. This should only happen when the traffic is nearer to being stationary.
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are plenty examples of bad driving out there, but by no means are bikers all good drivers by any stretch of the imagination. Talking with my sister recently and she has been surprised by the number of bikes she has seen riding round London without the slightest regard for road laws or their own safety.

Just because someone is in a car does not mean they're a bad road user, they're just another road user like any other. Give other people enough space so that if they do try and do something stupid you have enough room to compensate and get out the situation alive. Easiest thing is to assume that everyone else on the roads are idiots and are out to try and get you, so give enough room so if it does happen you've got enough room to avoid them and carry on.

If someone is going to drive badly they'll drive badly whatever vehicle they are in or on, so the fact they happen to be in a car has no real meaning as people here quite rightly so get annoyed went people say "all bikers are dangerous idiots" or whatever, so a good start is not to also make generalization like that.

And yes if someone on a bike has a crash then it is themselves that is physically hurt, but what about the people who were in the car and had a good view of them hurting themselves or the bikers family and friends who are put through hell when they get the news that you're hurt and in hospital or whatever. Would never want any of my family or friends to be put through that through for something which was clearly my own fault after knowing what people were put through after the car crash happened. Yes it is only the bike who is hurt physically, but there will be lots of other people who get affected by the fact you're injured and in hospital or even worse if you're killed.

And yes synaptyx you do get lots of road users trying to cut the corner at junctions, so leave enough space (if it's possible) so that you don't end up under their wheels if they do it and knock you off. Yes if it happens it is their fault entirely and you're completely in the right, but that doesn't help any of the injuries you get to heal any faster.
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:

Thats not /really/ what I meant.


I know it's not what *you* meant, but a lot of people do think that way - that's the point I was making.
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Driving over potholes knackers your tyres. Same for 4x4s. Its the sharpness, see.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
4x4 driver = lowest of the low.


What about those people who /have/ to drive 4x4's because they have arthritus (for example) and need the 'height' provided by those particular vehicles in order to get in and out? Eh? Eh?

I personally have no quibble with 4x4's, which is a good job since there are farms all other the place round here. Razz
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erm, its /harder/ to get in and out of a 4x4 than it is a normal car. You have to climb up some steps ffs! Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A couple of weeks ago at the same junction; I just checked that the road was clear left, you have to be quite cautious as the road to the left bends back behind some buildings (out of frame). Did a life saver and made to pull out and some clown performs this classic manouver:



https://a73.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/junction2.jpg

A bike did this to me!!! I was suprised, as i had my space covered, and all.

It's true, even bike riders can be bad, even equally as bad as some car drivers. Just watch it on the streets. Thumbs Up


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PostPosted: 19:49 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of us car drivers are ok. Many car drivers (be them biker or not) do respect bikers on the road. The odd wanker spoils it for everyone!

I'm sorry to hear that your fiancee was unfortunate enough to come across such a wanker-ish idiotic idiot Jodie!
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If he did that to me I would have pulled a U turn and gone after him.

However, I think my bike is somewhat more intimidating than a CG 125...


I agree, words would be had at the next point where he was trapped and could not pull away, if nothing else, I would have just got his licence plate and reported him to the police. Perhaps he was drunk?
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Erm, its /harder/ to get in and out of a 4x4 than it is a normal car. You have to climb up some steps ffs! Laughing


Not everone is as small as us Marky Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope this wasn't his first ride by himself!
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 26 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ian_s wrote:
Hope this wasn't his first ride by himself!


Actually Ian, yes it was !!!
He has just done his CBT.....

what made him even more angry was that, as a car driver himself, he would never dream of intimidating a biker like that !!
(according to Fiance car driver did not swerve for anything....stared at Fiance and KNEW what he was doing!)#

Oh well...he has ridden to his lesson tonight so he wasn't scared at all by it.

Thanks all xx

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PostPosted: 14:57 - 27 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like the driver of the 4x4 had a slight fixation problem there, maybe they liked the look of your fiance!
Its scary when something like that happens though when you first start out. On the way to my test back in May (hubby rode with me thankfully) we went through some green lights and there was a garage on the left, i saw the guy in the car sitting there looking at us and at the last possible second he pulled out and stopped his car dead in front of us. So i did my first real emergency stop and was very shaken up by the whole thing, hubby wasnt very happy with him and um well told him so too!
Some people just dont think!
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 27 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
And yes synaptyx you do get lots of road users trying to cut the corner at junctions, so leave enough space (if it's possible) so that you don't end up under their wheels
I certainly do Ste! It happened again this morning. Sad
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 27 Jul 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have seen some idiotic things
surpisingly they invole a hand and a mobile phone
a guy at a junction(on mobile) looked one way look at me then pulled out
i was in full view of the van and he pulled out
meh i nearly crashed
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