Nailed the A2 license, what about doing DAS now?

spetom · Trackday Trickster Joined: 30 Aug 2010 Karma :

I did an A2 license a month ago (that I can proudly say I did on my own with 0 lessons and passed first time with 1 minor in module 2!) Total cost = exam cost + bike cost - final value of selling bike on ebay = £-15 (rather smug about that) (this doesn't include 2 months insurance costs at £40 a month, petrol costs, hours of study, hours on empty tesco car parks and a bag of determination however).

I've now got the itch however for bigger unrestricted bikes.

I was thinking what happens if I booked myself in for the DAS exam and turned up to the exam on a restricted Honda VFR 400 (I would never tell the examiner it was restricted of course).

I'm pretty sure I could take the exam. I would bring my friend in a hi-viz vest to pose as my instructor of course.

Are there any unforseen pitfalls or things to watch out for in my plan?

Imonster · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Oct 2006 Karma :

Most examiners know all the instructors well at my local test centre would be the immediate issue around here...

And fraud maybe? Don't know for sure, but could be a possibility.

Some examiners may also be a bit tight about mph overlays on the clocks, which I'm assuming you've got on the VFR.
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DOGFACED · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 29 Apr 2010 Karma :

Am I missing something here...Would you not have to hand ver your license before hand and sign that decleration thing...

therefore the instructor would know you have a 33bhp license already?

Or you just basically on about turning up with L plates attatched claiming you are riding under the instruction? Therefore you can ride a larger unrestricted bike..

doesn't it have to be over 500cc? So VFR wouldn't qualify....?
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pinkyfloyd · Super Spammer Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Karma :

Best advice I can give is speak to a training centre and get one of their bikes for the accelerated access. Providing you are over 21.

spetom · Trackday Trickster Joined: 30 Aug 2010 Karma :

pinkyfloyd · Super Spammer Joined: 20 Jul 2010 Karma :

From the impression I get its pretty much another mod 2 only with the bigger bike. Seems the only way to do it legit without waiting untill the 2 year restriction is over.

Makes me glad I done my DAS course when I did.
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MaybeGuy · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Karma :

why bother? ive never even heard about anyone getting done for being derestricted on an A2 licence.

ive been pulled over countless times in my restriction period, even told them it was full power and they either dont know the law, or dont care.

at 28 you're even less likely to get done for it.

dont pump unneccesary money into an already stupidly complex examining process
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TomCB · Scooby Slapper Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Karma :

why didnt you just do the direct access test to begin with on the vfr (unrestricted) instead of the a2?
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Derivative · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Aug 2010 Karma :

I would think frauding the test on a low power bike would be about the same deal in terms of severity? Seems risky IMO, I wouldn't do it. Your friend could get in bother as well for impersonating an instructor.

TomCB · Scooby Slapper Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Karma :

so you'd rather go about committing fraud against a government agency, than take a test without insurance/license?

fraud option = a hefty fine, maybe even time inside
no insurance/license = points, fine and ban

i know which i'd choose. (well, neither, to be honest)

why not just forge a restriction certificate and ride unrestricted?

still breaking the law, but its the least likely to get caught/not spending more money on more tests.

but whatever, its your choice. i guess i just don't get some peoples logic
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woodsyshouse0... · L Plate Warrior Joined: 03 Oct 2010 Karma :

from the very start, you need to do both module1 and 2 on a motorcycle with a higher BHP than 46.6 to get your DAS qualification....am really not sure how difficult it is to de-restrict your machine, but you can rest assured that the DSA have a list of motorcycles that meet the requirements whether it be for DAS, A2 or A1, so on the day of the test lots of this information is recorded by the examiner.....i,ve never had to book a test like yourself as i trainer book tests for my students, so am not sure how they answer the phone to joe public, so am really not sure if they,d take a "Big Bike Mod.2" because i think you need your instructor information.....and yes all the examiners do recognise all the instructors because when i was the new kid on the block i got some strange looks from the examiners until they knew i was a new instructor....give it a try, borrow a mates 46.6bhp and get it insured for a month, get your mate to take you up on the back the bike, put the L plates on then your insured to take both your modules.........