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ManInTheBox
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 03 Oct 2010    Post subject: First ride tonight :D Reply with quote

New rider here guys.

Went on my first ride tonight and i must say it was truly awesome. Must have covered about 50 miles. Had a slight scare when some numpty pulled out on me from a t junction and i had to break so hard it caused my back wheel to lock, but luckily i stayed on the bike. I may have been going to fast and not anticipating the road.

Since I've went out on the bike it seems the neutral light only lights up when the bike is running whereas it used to light up when the bike was just sitting.

The electric start just seems to have completely stopped working also. Seems as though a electrical connection problem, but all the electrics other than the electric start work fine when the bike is running. I suspect this is due to my bike being a dodgy Chinese 125 number.?
Any ideas on the problems here?

Overall, it was the most fun I've had in a long time once i got over the initial nerves. I also gained a new respect for the road being so vulnerable compared to a car.
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 03 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: First ride tonight :D Reply with quote

ManInTheBox wrote:
Had a slight scare when some numpty pulled out on me from a t junction and i had to break so hard it caused my back wheel to lock, but luckily i stayed on the bike. I may have been going to fast and not anticipating the road.


When you brake hard, all the weight shifts to the front and the back goes light, so if you're heavy on the back brake, it will lock the wheel. For heavy braking a straight line, apply a lot of pressure to the front brake, and only slight pressure to the back (if anything).
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PostPosted: 00:52 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: First ride tonight :D Reply with quote

ManInTheBox wrote:
New rider here guys.

. Had a slight scare when some numpty pulled out on me from a t junction



That happens quite a lot. Basically watch the road ahead and if you can think it then the chances are it will happen.

"I see that old lady, she could step out in front of me"

"I see that car sitting there, bet he hasnt seen me and will pull out"

Anticipate and you can react better when it happens.

As for the electric problems. If you have no electrics untill you fire the bike up and then the electrics work then check for a short somewhere. Chances are the bike is earthing itself and shorting the system. It happened on my 125 chinese heap. First place to look would be the front headlight. Check to see if a wire is touching any of the outer casing of the light. It was an on going problem with mine.
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ManInTheBox
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PostPosted: 03:36 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: First ride tonight :D Reply with quote

Alex A wrote:
ManInTheBox wrote:
Had a slight scare when some numpty pulled out on me from a t junction and i had to break so hard it caused my back wheel to lock, but luckily i stayed on the bike. I may have been going to fast and not anticipating the road.


When you brake hard, all the weight shifts to the front and the back goes light, so if you're heavy on the back brake, it will lock the wheel. For heavy braking a straight line, apply a lot of pressure to the front brake, and only slight pressure to the back (if anything).


I was very hesitant to place pressure on the front brake all night as my instructor on the cbt gave me a stern word for using the front brake to come to a quick stop.
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PostPosted: 03:59 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that I have much experience, but with regards to the front brake its impossible on most bikes to bring it to a quick stop with the rear brake, the problem with coming to a quick stop with the front brake is 'jabbing' at it, you need to be using them as smoothly as possible, just progressively as the situation allows.

I remember one particular time I went on a long ride to see family with my brother, I'd not had much sleep and was slightly lost, not focused at all on the road. The next thing I knew was the car in front of me was stopping and going alot slower than I was. I used my brakes the hardest I've ever had to use them, and I will admit to thinking 'this is it, I've hit him', and in the last few seconds I almost closed my eyes. When they fully reopened I'd stopped about an inch from the back of the car but it taught me a very serious lesson to always anticipate the road ahead of me. As far as I know my front brake allowed that though.

I think the problem really comes into play on bigger bikes... Twin disc, twin caliper HUGE ones, which require even smoother attention (correct me if I'm wrong) but the ideal situation however is not to have to stop so quickly we question how the brakes will work, however its not always an option. On my 125 I never had an issue with the front brake the rear only ever locked once; on the E-stop in my mod 1 but thats another story Laughing.

On a final note, in his first 100 miles my brother had his first and only off jabbing at the front brake, on a 125.
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PostPosted: 04:20 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: First ride tonight :D Reply with quote

ManInTheBox wrote:

I was very hesitant to place pressure on the front brake all night as my instructor on the cbt gave me a stern word for using the front brake to come to a quick stop.


Trying to stop a bike using mainly the back brake is like trying to stop a car by pulling on the handbrake...
What the instructor likely means is that you shouldn't snatch at the front brake. Grabbing it it and pulling hard in 1 sharp movement will result in you using your arse to slow down. Pull the lever back slowly until you feel the front end dip, then pull it gradually harder to increase the braking force. As others have said the weight shifts forwards as you slow giving you more grip on the front end allowing you to brake harder. snatching at the lever won't give this time to happen and can lock the front.
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PostPosted: 06:17 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your battery is dead. That's why nothing works unless your running the engine.

Your instructor is sort of right, using your front brake at low speeds (below 10mph) will tend to throw you forward and off balance and will be jerky. I gathered a minor for it on my full test. Use front brake until 10mph and then slowly ease off the front and apply the rear to stop smoothly.

Just like in a car they teach you to lift your foot as you come to a complete stop for smoothness.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloke wrote:
Your battery is dead. That's why nothing works unless your running the engine.

this/\ either the battery is dead or you have a wire off it (may even have a main fuse type thing somwhere..
congrats tho its the best ever feeling getting out on your own for the first time
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips about the front brake, i guess i was just scared in case i locked the front wheel and took a header lol.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 04 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehe just savour that 'first ride' feeling... I've been riding since April myself and just felt a massive rush when I was out on my bike for the first time.

Still get a rush going on it now, went out for a blast this lunchtime, in the warm sunshine - truly awesome Very Happy

Just can't wait to bin the L plates and get a bigger bike...

You will get more confident in using the brakes the more you practice, I'm still learning how to brake properly 5 months on - grabbed the front brake today not thinking! But I won't do that again in a hurry... all about experience from here on in.

Ride safe Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:59 - 05 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Wrong Bob wrote:


Still get a rush going on it now, went out for a blast this lunchtime, in the warm sunshine - truly awesome Very Happy

Just can't wait to bin the L plates and get a bigger bike...

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Wait until you get that bigger bike and head out into the countryside on it, I done DAS and when we were taken into the national speed limit roads and opened the bikes up I had that feeling "This is what its all about"

Theres something nice about doing that speed without the engine screaming for an extra gear the way it does on a 125. Your hitting 60/70 and the bike isnt struggling at all.

Enjoy the bikes guys. I do! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 05 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wait until you get that bigger bike and head out into the countryside on it, I done DAS and when we were taken into the national speed limit roads and opened the bikes up I had that feeling "This is what its all about"

Theres something nice about doing that speed without the engine screaming for an extra gear the way it does on a 125. Your hitting 60/70 and the bike isnt struggling at all.


That's what I'm looking forward to Very Happy you've got it just right about 125s sounding like they need an extra gear!
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