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JackDaniels
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 07 Oct 2010    Post subject: 2T OIL HELP!!!! Reply with quote

hi guys,
me being a bit of a T**T put some really cheap £3 oil in my scooter after it clogged up the exhaust i cleared it all out, just notsure what oil to put in now.

i have 2 diff bottles in my garage
i have https://www.ears.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=422
and https://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_263595_langId_-1_categoryId_165484

f ive completly drained my tank just not sure wich one to fill with.
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 07 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

what was the 3 quid oil? I run carplan 2 stroke oil from asda in my bike with no problems.

complety drained the tank? what u mean the 2 stroke oil tank?

Or have you been premixing it with the petrol?

Your bike doesn't need either of the 2 above. Its not a high performance bike.

Your oil pump setting could be out or if premixing you have added too much oil to the tank.
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 07 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

it was trago mills value, mineral oil, just smoked alot and clogged the silencer same happened to my friends bikes, i dont see the point in buying more oil as i already have the 2 above just wondering wich one to put in as i need my bike for college tomorrow Smile
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 07 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

and yeah i mean the oil tank
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 07 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: 2T OIL HELP!!!! Reply with quote

jogrr1994 wrote:
hi guys,
me being a bit of a T**T put some really cheap £3 oil in my scooter after it clogged up the exhaust i cleared it all out, just notsure what oil to put in now.

i have 2 diff bottles in my garage
i have https://www.ears.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=422
and https://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_263595_langId_-1_categoryId_165484

f ive completly drained my tank just not sure wich one to fill with.


castrol and silk are both good oils, so either will do Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 07 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, i think il use the silkoline as its fully synth Smile
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 08 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure how you empty the tank but make sure you bleed the oil system if you have drained the oil tank as you would have let air in the system. Cos if you get an air lock and then no oil gets to the engine then expect the worse!

Your might have to premix a little with the petrol while the oil in the 2T tank bleeds itself. If not bleed the proper way.

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PostPosted: 11:40 - 08 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

rob yarrr wrote:
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i ran my rs50 on £1 2 stroke oil,the carlube stuff and it ran amazingly


thats what i meant - carlube oil, where the hell did you get it for a quid? I stocked up on 2 stroke oil at 3 quid a litre. that was asda!
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 08 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

if we're going on about my bikes run on this etc...

My mito ran on premixed 4t oil while i was bleeding the oil lines
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 08 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
if we're going on about my bikes run on this etc...

My mito ran on premixed 4t oil while i was bleeding the oil lines


So i could run it 4t oil but then ask the question why isn't everyone else? Whats so different between 4 stroke oil and 2 stroke oil? I know its thicker for a start on 2t oils.

So is manufactures making a gimmick of us as marketing crap?

so far as 4 stroke oil is quite thin i would expect a high mix ratio for a start
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PostPosted: 11:59 - 08 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bloke I used to work with used to 'filter' the oil he took out of his car through an old pair of his missus' tights and then ran his Honda H100 two-stroke on it. Did it for years, bike rusted away before the engine gave out. Used to smoke like Hell but it never bothered him, only those who followed. Wouldn't recommend doing this on something like an Aprilia 125 or 250, a bit touchy on what oil used and bloody expensive motors.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 08 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont think theres any point using special expensive oils, even 4t oil in 2 strokes.

I can understand in things that are highly strung like mitos and rs's and maybe a tuned rd engine, but other than that i think its word of mouth bullshit started by 'mechanics' to make a sale.
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 08 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

:S how do i bleed the oil system, ? all i did was pull the pipe of the bottom of the tank then put it back on again
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 08 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

rob yarrr wrote:
jesus

i ran my rs50 on £1 2 stroke oil,the carlube stuff and it ran amazingly


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PostPosted: 19:09 - 08 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

rob yarrr wrote:
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stafford new years day,whos bike ran and got them home ? ;D


Stafford show, who had to wait after every slight hill?
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 08 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattsprattuk wrote:
i dont think theres any point using special expensive oils, even 4t oil in 2 strokes.

Back in the 70's I worked in a dodgy bike shop on Rice Lane in Walton. They had just one large tank of oil (Duckhams 20/50 IIRC) which they used for everything including 2t, 4t, pre-mix and gearboxes. I don't recall them coming unstuck using these practices.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 08 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used lawnmower style 2 stroke oil in my moped loads of times with no issues. In my Aprilia RS125 I always used synthetic 2 stroke oil, but unless you are riding a sports 2 stroke there's no point.

cb1rocket wrote:
mattsprattuk wrote:
if we're going on about my bikes run on this etc...

My mito ran on premixed 4t oil while i was bleeding the oil lines


So i could run it 4t oil but then ask the question why isn't everyone else? Whats so different between 4 stroke oil and 2 stroke oil? I know its thicker for a start on 2t oils.

So is manufactures making a gimmick of us as marketing crap?

so far as 4 stroke oil is quite thin i would expect a high mix ratio for a start


Don't run it on 4 stroke oil.
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 08 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im-a-Ridah wrote:
I used lawnmower style 2 stroke oil in my moped loads of times with no issues. In my Aprilia RS125 I always used synthetic 2 stroke oil, but unless you are riding a sports 2 stroke there's no point.

cb1rocket wrote:
mattsprattuk wrote:
if we're going on about my bikes run on this etc...

My mito ran on premixed 4t oil while i was bleeding the oil lines


So i could run it 4t oil but then ask the question why isn't everyone else? Whats so different between 4 stroke oil and 2 stroke oil? I know its thicker for a start on 2t oils.

So is manufactures making a gimmick of us as marketing crap?

so far as 4 stroke oil is quite thin i would expect a high mix ratio for a start


Don't run it on 4 stroke oil.


i dont see why it would make any difference on a 50 ped
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 09 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he is having a problem fouling plugs with cheap 2t oil then he will most certainly get it running 4t oil!! Wink

Basically 2t oil is DESIGNED to be burnt with minimal deposits, 4t oil isn't.
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 09 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive no doubt cheaper 2t oils will work fine. But i do find they leave more in the way of deposits behind.

Ill never pay more than a tenner for a litre of oil though. Useing rock oil 2stroke semi at the mo for £6.99 a litre.

Considering the bike is only used on a sunny days and clocks up probably less than 3000miles a year, i dont mind paying a bit more.
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 09 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

jogrr1994 wrote:
:S how do i bleed the oil system, ? all i did was pull the pipe of the bottom of the tank then put it back on again


Your need to look at the workshop manual for that. As for taking off the tube at the bottom of the tank, its quite likely you have let air into the system.

So i suggest running the bike premixed with petrol in the fuel tank until 2 stroke tank bleeds itself - make sure you have oil in there thou. It will smoke like hell until you start running back to normal. After a tankful, check the oil in the tank has gone down over time so to double check its actually taking in oil. Then you can start running it normally without premixing it.

If the oil doesnt go down over time, then you def have an air lock and possible engine damage unless runing pre-mixed.

So if that was the case your gonna have to bleed it properly. And i'm unsure for that particular model - haynes will tell you how
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