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TimNorwich
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Long Way Round/Down & Race to Dakhar, your thoughts? Reply with quote

So I just watched Race to Dakhar, and to be honest I was pretty dissapointed.

The first 2 hours was him yapping and planning, which I'd seen in the Long Ways. Charley stops riding in the 4/5th episode and the rest is his 2 mates riding round swearing, and a whole lot of footage of Charley at the pit-stops.

To top off the boring shite the whole time Charley is sulking and moaning none stop. Oh and saw hardly any crashes, and very little footage of them riding the bikes!

The Long way Round has to be the best one for me as it was all new to them at the time.
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to agree there. Much prefer the first one, havng got all on dvd.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

First one for me, LWD sounded pretty good in theory but it was just hours of whining and desert Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think mondo enduro is better than the lot
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think I've seen a good bike related program on TV. LWR was aimed, understandably, at the mainstream audience and certainly didn't hurt BMWs sales figures.

Nick Sanders could do well but its just too rushed and random.

I'd like to see a small group of average people on their own bikes do something similar without all the support vehicles and sponsorship.
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd much rather sit and watch Race To Dakar than LWD. I thought that with RTD they managed to make the best of a bad situation. Simon Pavey was genuinely interesting, and the other guy's plight (Matt?) as a 'fallen rider' was really interesting.

Charley's acting skills were tested to the limit with the whole "OMG Matt has stopped!!" nonsense, but considering how well he was doing when he broke his wrists I don't think he did all that badly. He did better than I can do, and people were going to dis him unless he finished, so I think he did very well indeed.

LWD was dire. Considering they had a two and a half month journey and the best footage they could come up with was Ewan moaning, I think they did a particularly poor job.

I actually really enjoyed By Any Means and By Any Means 2. Better than all of them except LWR IMO.
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long way round is good. The other one is a bit shit. Dakar was good I thought.
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marki wrote:

I'd like to see a small group of average people on their own bikes do something similar without all the support vehicles and sponsorship.


that would be mondo enduro

this is a promo clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beEXfEdpDrk

The nice thing about charlie and ewan, is they are likeable idiots. Ewan with the mood swings makes things more interesting. Beaming smile to miserable grumpyness. Charlie coming out with daft things worthy of a spoof such as "when people think of Africa, they think of it being riddled with AIDS." Yes AIDS is a problem but it somehow makes it funny when he talks about it being "riddled with AIDS". Talking about bombs before getting on an aircraft so nrealy not being allowed to fly.

That is truly daft stuff, how many people do you know who would start talking about bombs when going through security ?

If it was uneventful, pleasant sensible chaps, it wouldnt be so entertaining. It's 'mates TV' virtual mates and mateyness, like top gear.
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers Col, I'll have to find that one, never seen it before.
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: Long Way Round/Down & Race to Dakhar, your thoughts? Reply with quote

Too commercial 'Eastenders' style, made for TV drama - while an interesting travelling/motorbiking real life story seems to be second place or worse - possibly because it wasn't that interesting with all the support etc?
This sort of trip shouldn't need extra dramatisation really.
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just finished watching the LWR again and its a really good story.
Got the books and they are good too.
Watching the LWD and its ok, still entertaining tv (esp as you get to see a bit of Ewan's willy!).

Must watch Race To Dakar and by any means at some point..
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 19:14 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

daFailedStuntman wrote:
by any means

The first series was good but the second series sucked serious ass, just wasnt the same.

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I've said it before and i'll say it again. I'd do her!
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I enjoyed Long Way Round all those years ago, but there were large aspects of boorman that really got on my tits. Even then.

Boorman;

Sulking and ripping the KTM poster off the wall, when they don't agree to give them free bikes.

When he is about to set off and nearly drops his bike, then gives it the whole "thank-yooou, jeeez" type of thing when people help him not drop it. As if they were supposed to guess he was liable to turn into a completely inept retard at any moment and drop the bike.

When he has a go at his manager/director bloke for flapping too much "calm down russ, just caaaaalmmm doooooowwwwwnnnn". I thought the guy did well not to clock him.

He also spat out the food he was given, which I thought was pretty fucking rude. Ok, it was testicles or something, but you could politely decline it beforehand instead of being a disgusting pig in somebodys home.

He is just an overprivileged posh twat, with a lispy voice, who has a real diva streak.

After long way round, he is universally accepted as some kind of messiah on two wheels.

Just gets on my tits.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

WildGoose wrote:

Sulking and ripping the KTM poster off the wall, when they don't agree to give them free bikes.


KTM offered them free bikes, they just didn't offer them full support and £120K each. Its pretty common knowledge on the HUBB.


WildGoose wrote:
After long way round, he is universally accepted as some kind of messiah on two wheels.


Not really, anybody who has travelled knows of all the made for TV tricks they used. Like the full support on the road of bones. Those convenient lorries passing by were not convenient passing by lorries they were hired help! The Mongol tracks which were battered to hell were not that difficult to ride they were purposely dug up and watered to make it look difficult to ride!
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't know any of that tbh, the HUBB by definition will not be the kind of common knowledge many are privy too.

I did register there once, but couldn't get on with it. Far too many forums.

If he was considered a fraud by so many, he wouldn't have been offered the multiple magazine columns, newspaper articles and subsequent series'.

Either way, the guy is a tool.
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PostPosted: 20:30 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really enjoyed Long Way round. So much so that everytime I watch it I just wanna go on a long trip. I didn't enjoy Long Way Down as much probably because it was just all desert and not much more. And yeah, Charley did a fair bit of moaning which got annoying after a bit but didn't make me want to turn it off. Ewan was awesome though, class bloke, proper down to earth.

Haven't seen the Race To Dakar, I'll have to give that a watch.
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

WildGoose wrote:

If he was considered a fraud by so many, he wouldn't have been offered the multiple magazine columns, newspaper articles and subsequent series'.

Because being a fraud has ever got in the way of anyone being famous? Wink
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

WildGoose wrote:


If he was considered a fraud by so many, he wouldn't have been offered the multiple magazine columns, newspaper articles and subsequent series'.

Either way, the guy is a tool.


Because as you have aptly demostrated it is not common knowledge that it was mostly fraud! I had to get to Irkutsk in the middle of Siberia before being told by many knowledgable people that it was mostly fraud!

I would also add if you are in the magic circle of the media then anything goes. Steig Larson for instance who wrote "Men who hate women." wrote three awful books. Yet somehow he has sold (postumously) millions of books. Douglas Coupland is the same, he wrote two good books, the rest of his work is trash, but because he is in the media magic circle all his books even if they are trash (Jpod was a travesty as was Generation A) they still sell well.
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marki wrote:
I don't think I've seen a good bike related program on TV. LWR was aimed, understandably, at the mainstream audience and certainly didn't hurt BMWs sales figures.

Nick Sanders could do well but its just too rushed and random.

I'd like to see a small group of average people on their own bikes do something similar without all the support vehicles and sponsorship.


GOTO UKGSER

Fixed.

And Boreman.... I got soooo sick of the Cuntish Cavalier pulling wheelies for no apparent reason... Taaawaaaat.
And Obiwan losing it enroute to Umpamtoompa (or somewhere). Crying, bubbling.... Someone give him an Oscar ffs.
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
Crying, bubbling.... Someone give him an Oscar ffs.


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PostPosted: 22:33 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The books were quality, was seriously disappointed by the series though. Confused


Walloper wrote:
And Boreman....bubbling....

Hmmm, think anyone would pay to see someone bubbling... Laughing
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