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Ariel Badger
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Morphine Reply with quote

Following my Tramadol thread ( thanks to all of you that helped on there), my friend came of Tramadol as it was a bad drug for him and the back pain is now debilitating, his Dr recommended Morphine. He initially refused as he is scared of the implications of M, It looks like he will need surgery to free him of pain and this could take three months or so.
I have advised him to go on M until he gets the surgery. From my research ( reading William S Burroughs etc) a M habit takes about 6 months but I would be most appreciative of your input and experiences.
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on your personality type and what you've got going on in your life. I know people who did heroin for a bit then stopped with no problems, but plenty of people are hooked from the start. I think the danger is that after surgery he still takes it for the pain, then either develops a false pain, or just plain lies to himself that he still needs it. Generally for avoiding addiction to things i find it best to do things as infrequently as possible and view all motives for increasing frequency with suspicion.
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PostPosted: 00:32 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy I used to work with was given morphine for a back injury. Oramorph tables from memory.

After about 4 months he looked like hell. Skinny as a rake, so weak with his back bad he was in a wheelchair and covered in scabs on his arms from itching till he bled.

Slowly weaned himself off after his op, but it wasn't good.

keep a close eye on what he's taking
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was on it for about 8 months after my accident and its not easy to stop. I realised i didnt need it for the pain so tried to stop taking it but ended up feeling like crap.

So i slowly cut down the dose over a few weeks but found i was still addicted to it and ended up going cold turkey. For most of a week i felt like shit with hot and cold sweats, shivering, tired, feeling itchy and just feeling out of it, it wasnt fun but it worked.

If hes gonna take it be careful and try not to take it too long, but saying that if the pain is as bad as mine was you dont really care as long as you can get a bit of sleep or some rest from the pain.
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PostPosted: 01:22 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

From reading up with my Tramadol addiction it does seem there's some genetic factors too - the fact I was unknowingly addicted quite easily suggests I'm possibly susceptible to opiate addiction more than others.
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't tramadol essentially a synthetic morphine anyway? Confused
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

tell him to smoke some weed for his pain
Any morphine product is addictive and some people get hooked easier than others
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PostPosted: 11:14 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes please. Cool

Actually I'm with Old Pink, I'd opt for something natural over chemically enhanced in a lab any day. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:15 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clanger wrote:

Actually I'm with Old Pink, I'd opt for something natural over chemically enhanced in a lab any day. Thumbs Up

Go straight to opium, then - none of this fake paracetamol rubbish!

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PostPosted: 11:35 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldpink wrote:
tell him to smoke some weed for his pain
Any morphine product is addictive and some people get hooked easier than others


This works remarkably well. It's nowhere near as powerful as morphine, unless you smoke 'til you can't walk, but it takes the edge off, isn't intrinsically addictive, and is less likely to make you end up looking like a meth fiend.
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both my parents were put on it when terminally ill - they were no longer the same people.
It stopped the pain though. Rolling Eyes

The doc's advice is probably the best nonetheless.
Relentless pain is more debilitating than the drug side effects.
It is a very effective painkiller and the other things it does are well known.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clanger wrote:
Yes please. Cool

Actually I'm with Old Pink, I'd opt for something natural over chemically enhanced in a lab any day. Thumbs Up


You want pain relief and don't want chemicals or addictive opiates?

Hypnosis/hypnotherapy. A good hypnotist should find pain relief no problem. It's been used as anaesthetic in operations, childbirth and even by medics on the battlefield. One of the classic texts, Elman's Hypnotherapy originated through pain relief. Dave Elman's father was dying of cancer. A stage hypnotist they knew of came round to ease the pain of the dying man. That sparked his interest in hypnosis.

Not for everyone tho. If you're a firm believer in big pharma and the NHS keep up with the tablets.
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

nowhere.elysium wrote:
oldpink wrote:
tell him to smoke some weed for his pain
Any morphine product is addictive and some people get hooked easier than others


This works remarkably well. It's nowhere near as powerful as morphine, unless you smoke 'til you can't walk, but it takes the edge off, isn't intrinsically addictive, and is less likely to make you end up looking like a meth fiend.


Quite the opposite, once the munchies set in Smile
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was disappointed in morphine. After I had my son I was on it in hospital, I asked what sort of crappy pain killers had me on as I needed stronger ones. After pains are very sore. They where injecting it in my leg to. Must have been dud stuff it didnt do anything anyone had told me morphine does not even cure the pain. Confused I think if your not in severe pain maybe? dont know didnt work for me.
And gas and air where also shit just to note.
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