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Ingah
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PostPosted: 02:37 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Ground Anchor for Almax 3? Reply with quote

I'm looking for a suitable ground anchor for my Almax series 3 chain, for use within the garage of my newly rented property. Despite knowing plenty about chains (hence the ownership of an Almax) i don't know much about ground anchors at all, and so i'm hoping someone else does!

Anyone know any that will suit the chain apart from of course what Almax sells (which i'd happily pay if i was staying long term, but i expect to be there 1-2 years, no more, so don't want to invest too heavily in what are probably not the cheapest anchors that suit the job). Thinking about it, something reuseable would be ideal! (i.e. something i can somehow take out and reuse in my next house, god knows if that's possible because they're supposed to be secure Wink ) Cheap recommendations are particularly appreciated Thumbs Up (as my bike's mechanics and accessories have bled me dry).

Obviously i need an anchor that suits the Almax, not some mickey mouse thing that's as easy to circumnavigate as an oxford chain Wink , but i've been told most anchors are "much of a muchness" and so i suppose this means a cheap one is what i'm really after as they all do the same job Cool

Also willing to consider alternatives (e.g. the concrete-filled plant pot idea) - but i'm not happy to cement my only Almax 3 in to anything! Equally, the thought occurs to me that there's no way to make it so that a heavy object i'm using as an anchor (e.g. plant pot etc) can't be simply lifted along with the bike! However, that said, apparently i need to remove any ground anchor/marks to the garage when i leave so errr... Neutral
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PostPosted: 05:54 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be interested in any replys. I havnt bought a big chain yet as I have nothing strong enough to lock it to.

I wonder if the soloution exists
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PostPosted: 06:21 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole point of a ground anchor is that you can't take it out so forget that.

I have a Torc anchor:

https://www.torc-anchors.com/torc-ground-anchor.php
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PostPosted: 06:34 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

To remove a ground anchor you will need to do some pretty extensive damage to your floor; basically you will need to remove all of the concrete holding it in, this will probably involve damage to a wide area surrounding this.


Talk to the landlord and convinve him it will be an asset to future tenants to lock bicycles, lawnmowers, motorcycles caravans etc etc to and that you are happy to leave it in place for him once you leave Thumbs Up .
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy mine!

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Bought it as I was originally going to be leaving my bike outside but found somewhere a bit more secure in the end so its been sat in a cupboard for years.
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PostPosted: 08:48 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go and buy a big bucket and fill it with cement but just before the cement sets put a ground anchor in it and there you go

Picture attached to give an idea of what it should look like
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PostPosted: 08:50 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there not an iron drain pipe running down the side of the house?

That's what I used to use.
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buy a big one mate. This almax thing is massive Laughing
It "just" goes through xena anchors. anything smaller than xena won't work.
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone I know got hold of a few links of marine chain. It was thicker than any chain I've seen. He used a plasma cutter to trim it down to three links, then cemented it in the ground.

Could do something similar but with a cement filled scaffold poll or solid metal pole in the ground or a bucket. Could also put a pressure switch under the bucket, so if it moves it'll make a lot of noise.
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 15 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read someone else's suggestion on here a while back which was to fill a big bucket with concrete, and then stuff a "U" shaped bit of pvc pipe with a diameter big enough to accomodate your chain into it so that the ends of the U stick out the top of the concrete. When its all set, you can feed your chain through the U pipe.
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PostPosted: 10:34 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have decided that i will just put a proper ground anchor in as i'm not happy with the faff/expensive/effort/insecurity of any other cobbled together plant pot thing.

Anyone able to to give me a recommendation, as i'm still uncertain. I was looking at the Hardie anchor Almax sell, but it's about £20 too expensive, especially considering i'm only going to be living here for 2 years maximum (on a student budget).
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ingah wrote:


Anyone able to to give me a recommendation, as i'm still uncertain. I was looking at the Hardie anchor Almax sell, but it's about £20 too expensive, especially considering i'm only going to be living here for 2 years maximum (on a student budget).


https://www.discountlocks.co.uk/Oxford-Brute-Force-Ground-Anchor-p/oxford%20brute%20force.htm

Anything like that will do. Made from steel plate with either 2 or 4 fixings and cheap(ish). I fixed mine to the brick wall of a rented property with no complaints as if fitted discreetly it doesn't look too bad.

The only hard bit is drilling the bastard holes. Borrow a *good* hammer drill. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.yanchor.com/Y-max%20901.html

A friend has the original Y-Anchor, this one is a fair size bigger. Seems to do the job quite well!
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Benson_JV wrote:
https://www.yanchor.com/Y-max%20901.html

A friend has the original Y-Anchor, this one is a fair size bigger. Seems to do the job quite well!


At £70+ or so (inc. delivery), and a difficult/time-consuming job fitting it, i'd hope so! It's too much money imo.

That Oxford thing looks great (especially the price) - until i've just realised that you won't be able to get the Almax chain through it because it's been designed for a thin chain. I guess the search continues...
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ask ALMAX.
They can supply or help with this.
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ingah wrote:
Benson_JV wrote:
https://www.yanchor.com/Y-max%20901.html

A friend has the original Y-Anchor, this one is a fair size bigger. Seems to do the job quite well!


At £70+ or so (inc. delivery), and a difficult/time-consuming job fitting it, i'd hope so! It's too much money imo.

That Oxford thing looks great (especially the price) - until i've just realised that you won't be able to get the Almax chain through it because it's been designed for a thin chain. I guess the search continues...


Oxford is/are not as clever as the name suggests.
I shy away from their tat now-a-days after being bitten more than once by goods from the back of their caravan. CNUTS...
I think they were among the cheats in the security lock who had locks that could open using a Biro. But refused to assist customers until the media got stuck into them.
Also importers of Schuberth helmets which are shite too BTW...
Rant over.
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PostPosted: 21:39 - 12 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cheapest I found a decent anchor to fit a 16mm chain was the Hardie Secure anchor at www.saundersonsecurity.co.uk £40 shipped.

The PJB bull point they carry for 29.99 also fits that size chain, but doesn't fold other, so may cause you issues depending where you fit it.
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PostPosted: 02:41 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonnyBrago wrote:
To remove a ground anchor you will need to do some pretty extensive damage to your floor; basically you will need to remove all of the concrete holding it in, this will probably involve damage to a wide area surrounding this.

Talk to the landlord and convinve him it will be an asset to future tenants to lock bicycles, lawnmowers, motorcycles caravans etc etc to and that you are happy to leave it in place for him once you leave Thumbs Up .


Problem is bike thiefs don't care about your floor, for them its just a few swings of a sledgehammer.
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