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EUMP
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Winter riding tips Reply with quote

Looking for tips for the riding period through the winter period, such as snow, freezing to hell, maybe ice? do you take the bike through ice? *Of course probably on a offroader* but im talking normal sport tourer style.

Last time I tried to go on the road on the ice was on a 50cc, ended up smoking the nuts of my drive doing a burnout on the ice.. was expecting to go forward Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:53 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooh I reckon thats a good candidate for the search feature Smile
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be smooth with both putting the power through the back wheel and when braking. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would avoid ice unless i felt coming off was acceptable. Anything else is fair game and controllable.

Yes, i know you can ride in icy conditions, and i've done it myself, but when you're essentially skiing down a completely iced-over side road at not much over walking pace on a 200+kg bike you realise it's just not clever and isn't likely to end well (and is likely to be rather undignified when you find you can't get the grip with your feet on the icy surface to pick it up again).
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: Winter riding tips Reply with quote

Off-roaders can often be worse on especially if you've got off-road tyres on them.

I wouldn't voluntarily (except, err, I did on a few occasions) take a bike out in icey conditions.
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Invest in a stuntbike.

Makes riding on sheet ice and virgin snow fucking hilarious =D
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PostPosted: 00:31 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try not to crash. But more.
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PostPosted: 07:57 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A small and light bike is needed in the worst weather. Trying to hustle some lumbering IL4 dinosaur over the ice will result in expensive breakage. Something tatty but just this side of legal is ideal. No plastic. Cheap and plentiful spares availability. And brakes that on dry roads would be considered inadequate are a bonus on ice.

Off roaders are shite on ice. Come to the that, they're shite in the rain too. And shite in most circumstances, except riding off road or touring in countries where tarmac hasn't yet reached.
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PostPosted: 08:57 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: Winter riding tips Reply with quote

G wrote:
Off-roaders can often be worse on especially if you've got off-road tyres on them.

I wouldn't voluntarily (except, err, I did on a few occasions) take a bike out in icey conditions.


I took your 690 out through my village for the challenge when we had all that snow and ice, should have seen the looks i was getting.

People worry too much about riding in winter, just take it bit easier Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:04 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You boys have ovey been riding a long time, but it just sounds like you don't give a ....! Its bad enough on 4 wheels let alone 2! lol Fair play to you's..
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it is snowing and you are on a motorway then keeping above 80mph clears the snowflakes off your visor far better than having to wipe it with a gloved hand.

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PostPosted: 10:29 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forget which tyres you had one, but the MT21s with low pressure weren't too bad in the snow. Lots of fun with with the studs - wheelies in light ice/snow to really confuse the car drivers Very Happy.
Think I'm going to try and get some studs to add in for this winter - could be interesting on the KTM144 which weighs bugger all in the first place.

GSXR out in the second heavy snow turned out not to be such a great idea when I tried to get up the motorway slip road on the way back.
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: Winter riding tips Reply with quote

EUMP wrote:
Looking for tips for the riding period through the winter period, such as snow, freezing to hell, maybe ice? do you take the bike through ice? *Of course probably on a offroader* but im talking normal sport tourer style.

Last time I tried to go on the road on the ice was on a 50cc, ended up smoking the nuts of my drive doing a burnout on the ice.. was expecting to go forward Laughing


Use the car! Smile awaits flaming
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny G Laughing mmm, I'll probably just keep to the light snow and not push my luck don't fancy risking the road salt wrecking the bike out or drifting roundabouts on the ice... Or I could just get an old bike and play about with it on the snow with low pressure tyres
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PostPosted: 10:57 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: Winter riding tips Reply with quote

pepperami wrote:

Use the car! Smile awaits flaming

Great, now you've got a tonne and a half out of control! And, more to the point, now you're probably stuck in traffic.
I was loving having the bike in the first lot of heavy snow we got before Christmas which brought the region to a standstill as everyone tried to get home early.
It did take me about twenty minutes maybe to get the couple of miles in to town for the work Christmas party. Took people in cars 4 hours to cover the same distance and the girl at work who warned me against using the bike fell over twice while walking in Smile.
Previous year on the zx9, still happy commuting to work pretty slowly, as that was still a hell of a lot faster than the people stuck in the cars were doing.

Took my car out (got a bit of power and sports tyres with rear wheel drive) and it was 'ok', but still a bit more concerning than the bike for me, I'd say. Then you've got all the dangers of walking across the icey car park too Razz.
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody know where to buy some of those small skis that clip to your boots? Might be worth having incase it starts snowing whilst I'm at work Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode right through last year, through all the ice and snow.

The biggest issue I had was when I had to stop at traffic lights. The cars had warn two tracks through the ice down to the tarmac so the tyres were grippy enough, but the rest of the road was solid ice, balancing a bike on solid ice is not easy!

Also carb icing sucked.

The year before last I don't remember how I was getting to work and back Confused Anyway, on a day off or something, I was trying to get to a mates house, which is just of 1/4 mile off of the main road, unfortunately the road leading to his is really badly surfaced, so the ice had all sorts of ups and downs going on. Sad marks where I crashed X marks where I was going.

https://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee81/paddy2007dug/icecrash.jpg

I had to get my mate to come and help me pick up the bike since it was so icy. The biggest kick in the teeth was that I had literally just been to the petrol station, and as I was waiting for my mate to get to me, all I could do was watch my nice expensive petrol spill out all over the ice.
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a Honda XL250 many moons ago, and when the snow was heavy & thick, it was the only way to get around.
It coped amazingly well in the thick settled snow, but once the snow had compacted and become ice the XL was a pig to ride.
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I searched for my guide on here but can't find it Confused
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here it is!

Killa's guide to the winter ride

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PostPosted: 12:00 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks killa, i'll have a little peek Smile
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kinda looking forward to winter and kinda not.

I am really in two minds what to do this winter;

1 - Keep the GS500 I have which I really don't give a damn about cosmetically, but keep it tip-top mechanically.

OR

2 - Buy a cross bike with supermoto wheels as extra and hopefully be really prepared, but after reading this thread I an really put off by the cross bike as I would have thought it would be a good snow toy to have.
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you want is a VanVan or one of it's bigger engined relatives and then deflate the tyre to minimum pressure for maximum surface area.

It's the only good way to ride on ice and stuff. (Or so I am told by other forumers)
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having just read the thread on Monkey bikes, I reckon one of them would be a good laugh in snow/ice ! Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A supermoto will be taller (not so good, though less of an issue for you if I remember) and lighter (better), however the tyres may actually be worse.
Either way, a good thing to consider would be having a spare set of wheels with some nasty-weather biased tyres.

When I get around to getting the 690 back,you're welcome to borrow that for a bit to see what it's like living with a thumper.

These definitely make a massive difference in icy and light snow conditions:
https://gees.zenfolio.com/img/s2/v1/p12305489-3.jpg
Hoping to get another 200 to add to them for this winter.

My information regarding big-wheelers came from advriders in America where they have a lot more snow. Think you really want a 'proper' BW, big cat or similar, rather than the TW/vanvan.
Still want one, but think a Christini frame is above that on the list of silly bikes to get Smile.
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