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Triumph-ant
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: First bike. Is and SV 650 really the best? Reply with quote

Well first off... howdie *tips hat*

I am 25 and saving up to do direct access. I guess the first question is does anyone know anywhere good and reasonable price in the surrey area?

I want a proper bike once i have passed, something fun and pretty fast, but nothing that im going to kill myself on or more importantly, ruin, lol.
Now it seems that everyone i seem to be meeting these days has an SV650, even going from bigger bikes back down to the SV, is it really that great?!? Because everyone seems to have an SV i kinda dont want one, but im not going to cut my nose off to spite my face!

soooooo, is there anything as good as an SV which isnt an SV???

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PostPosted: 20:35 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends what you want, tbh. An sv is a v-twin, torquey but poor build quality. There are lots of cheap spare parts around because many new riders do DAS then buy an sv and then crash, and thus create a big spares market.

But there are a lot of other perfectly good starter motorbikes out there...like ER-5 / Honda Bros / Honda Hornet / Faser 600 and many many more besides.

If you do decide the sv is the bike for you, might I suggest the sv650.org website, where you will find many for sale for a decent price. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:54 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

see now a hornet i would love! they are sooo much fun, but i keep getting told that an SV is a great first bike as its so easy to handle, has the torque and is good in all weather Confused
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 13 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

im in the 'ive had most things and returned to an SV650' group.

They are what they are, a budget bike. they do everything fine but nothing amazing. good on fuel, cheap to run and reliable. ive not found the build quality too bad really, certainly no worse than any GSXR of its age.

For a first bike they are great if a little tame.
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PostPosted: 02:21 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meh, i've a brand new xj6-s. Tiz awesome, finally getting to explore from 5000-12000rpm now it's run in and it scares the shit out of me if I grab a handful, but it's so gentle in town, great bike.

Engine is a 600cc In-line 4 though not 650 v-twin. Wtf that means other than the shape of the thing I don't know Smile
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still getting used to my SV650 and I love it, I know there are better handling bikes out there and more powerful but for a first bike I would recommend one, It's teaching me to ride more smoothly than I had to on a 125, good on fuel as has been said and has instant urge when you want it to go.

The best thing though is the noise, with a decent can they sound gorgeous and for my riding style its fine (I like to make progress but going everywhere at 3 figure speeds is not for me)
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

get a hornet, they are great for a first bike, nice handling and easy to ride
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

what would a street triple be like as a first bike? .... Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Triumph-ant wrote:
what would a street triple be like as a first bike? .... Twisted Evil


Do it!
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Until you have ridden a bike for a while you aren't going to know what you want so spend as little as poss on your first (£500 or less) look along the lines of the usual training bikes:
GS500
ER5
CB500
You will probably want to move on fairly quick! so just get an old one! then after a few months move on once you know what you really want.

Spending as little as poss means you won't care to much if/when you drop it and come off it a couple of times which you probably will! and they are real easy to fix and there are tons of cheap parts for them.

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PostPosted: 16:34 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

IanRMartin wrote:
Until you have ridden a bike for a while you aren't going to know what you want so spend as little as poss on your first (£500 or less)

Ian


£500!!! I would like a bike that runs you know Razz
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for the hornet, i had great fun on mine
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

THe newer hornets are harder to come by than the others, because people tend to keep hold of them, and they entered the market at quite a high price, so expect to pay a bit more for a hornet.

I have a sport Bandit, and think its an absolutely brilliant bike, quick easy to handle, is forgiving and is bulletproof. As a new rider you may find that you forget to do certain essential maintenance, and the bandit will forgive you for it. Its not going to start crying on your way to work. Push it, and it will spring into life, but take it easy and it'll happily cruise along. Great bike.
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmmm, now i may have to go hornet window shopping Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i too was also be tempted to spend as little on your first bike as possible. a gpz500/er-5 etc can be found around that price in running condition. if you want bulletproof go honda.
you will probably drop your fist bike. i dropped mine twice. both on grass.
never riden an sv but everyone i know that owns one never really complains about it, but they never say it the best bike ever either. so also a good learner bike i suppose
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome! *tips hat also*

The force is strong with this one! You have your priorities perfect:
Triumph-ant wrote:
nothing that im going to kill myself on or more importantly, ruin


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And I would love an SV, I'm on an ER5 at the moment and it's more trouble than it's worth. But fuck me I found out the brakes work well today... but that's another story.

I'd love a good run on a GS500, kinda think I'd prefer it to the ER but time shall tell.

+1 for all the bikes listed above... you probably wouldn't want to go down Benson_JV's route and get a CBR600 as your first bike if you don't want to kill yourse... I mean, wreck it!
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Triumph-ant wrote:
see now a hornet i would love! they are sooo much fun, but i keep getting told that an SV is a great first bike as its so easy to handle, has the torque and is good in all weather Confused


Hornet was (and still is) my first big bike. So much fun I bought a second one as my commuter Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Triumph-ant wrote:
IanRMartin wrote:
Until you have ridden a bike for a while you aren't going to know what you want so spend as little as poss on your first (£500 or less)

Ian


£500!!! I would like a bike that runs you know Razz


I picked up an 18yr old GS500 up off ebay for £500 put nearly 4k miles on it so far and it should get me through the winter. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 14 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you do opt for the GS500, be wary they feel light on the front end and are serious rust buckets. Nothing a fork spring upgrade won't solve, but the rust...it's something you'd want to be on top of immediately.

Suzuki's are notorious for rusting up/corrosion, so if you are using it during winter, make sure you clean it religiously after every ride, and keep it in a garage or shed.

(I know, I had my sv for 9 years).
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I considered an SV and sat on one amongst around 15 different bikes after I passed my DAS. I ended up with a Hornet and its perfect; smooth, completely reliable, extremely easy to ride and very comfortable.

Apart from being docile in town its also fairly quick for a 'first big bike', I won't be embarrassed in a straight line by my mates GSXR600 SRAD and more importantly will show him a clean pair of heels through the really twisty stuff. I had reduced the previous owners chicken strips to a 1/4" within a few weeks of ownership and to be blunt, I'm a hamfisted idiot so it must be quite flattering.

Its a great do it all bike but long stints above 80 on the motorway will require a strong neck, but thats hardly the point. The only real ballache is the tank range. Whether I thrash the tits off it or not I get just over 100 miles to reserve.
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:
I considered an SV and sat on one amongst around 15 different bikes after I passed my DAS. I ended up with a Hornet and its perfect; smooth, completely reliable, extremely easy to ride and very comfortable.

Apart from being docile in town its also fairly quick for a 'first big bike', I won't be embarrassed in a straight line by my mates GSXR600 SRAD and more importantly will show him a clean pair of heels through the really twisty stuff. I had reduced the previous owners chicken strips to a 1/4" within a few weeks of ownership and to be blunt, I'm a hamfisted idiot so it must be quite flattering.

Its a great do it all bike but long stints above 80 on the motorway will require a strong neck, but thats hardly the point. The only real ballache is the tank range. Whether I thrash the tits off it or not I get just over 100 miles to reserve.


I'd agree with that, the tank range was a pain in the arse, 90-100 before having to get fuel. I think the hornet is an ideal first big bike, I regretted getting a 500cc after passing my test as I was bored of it in no time. I honestly have nothing bad to say about the hornet, I owned mine for 18 months and enjoyed every minute on the bike. If you intend to ride on motorways or longer distances, maybe an idea to fit a flyscreen, there are many to choose from and arent expensive. Any Hornet info you need can be found on the owners club website https://www.hondahornet.org.uk/messageboard/index.php
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PostPosted: 15:54 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slacker24seven wrote:
The only real bummer is the tank range. Whether I thrash the tits off it or not I get just over 100 miles to reserve.


Ahh, whereas the sv I could easily get 130 out of a tank, before going to reserve. Mine was naked, and old compared to what's readily available these days. Thumbs Up

Basically the choice is yours. Whatever you do decide to buy, make sure you've test ridden it first. I was totally convinced I would get the Hornet...but going from a Honda Bros 400 (v-twin) to the Hornet just felt plain weird (for me), hence me opting sv.
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clanger wrote:

Ahh, whereas the sv I could easily get 130 out of a tank, before going to reserve. Mine was naked, and old compared to what's readily available these days. Thumbs Up


Us old bastards can easily get around 150 to reserve out of our SV mobility scooters, and 195-205 till its dry. Only got 145 to reserve last Sunday, mostly due to doing 85-95 up the M6 to the Lakes.

I've had times where I thought maybe I made the wrong decision buying an SV. I really wanted a VFR750/early 800, but at the time all the ones I saw were too expensive.

The SV does the job, it's fast enough (110 indicated easy enough, on a private road obviously), its reasonably light and not too big, so manhandling it in and out the house isnt that bad. There's loads of em out there so spares are plentiful as is advice courteousy of its own lively forum.

It does what it does, not the best bike in the world, but not a bad un either, especially as a starter big bike.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 17 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clanger wrote:
Slacker24seven wrote:
The only real bummer is the tank range. Whether I thrash the tits off it or not I get just over 100 miles to reserve.


Ahh, whereas the sv I could easily get 130 out of a tank, before going to reserve. Mine was naked, and old compared to what's readily available these days. Thumbs Up

Basically the choice is yours. Whatever you do decide to buy, make sure you've test ridden it first. I was totally convinced I would get the Hornet...but going from a Honda Bros 400 (v-twin) to the Hornet just felt plain weird (for me), hence me opting sv.


Its funny you should say that, my uncle test rode my Hornet and few other shortlisted bikes for me before I bought it as having just done my DAS I wanted an expert opinion Laughing. Hes always been a twin and triple bloke so getting on the completely untorquey IL4s was a bit new to him! He was converted by the 'interesting' bit between 7k-13k though Wink
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PostPosted: 12:18 - 17 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i opted for an fzs600 fazer for my first big bike. great bike couldnt ask for more, very comfortable on any roads, good handling (opinion based) great power fair amount of torque for a pint sized 4. 6 speed box and the ability to play tig with passing power rangers.
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