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Oz.
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 15 Oct 2010    Post subject: Recovery fees - burnt out bike Reply with quote

So here be the story of my bike form another forum:

"So last night I get woken up by the Police on the phone to tell me they have found my Aprilia RS125 on fire on the wasteground behind my apartment block.

So went down stairs and watched the cctv footage and 3 teenagers had somehow got inside the (un)secure car park underneath the block, jammed the shutter doors open, popped the steering lock and then watched them wheel it out across on to the wasteground and set it on fire all in the space of 4 mins...

Now the bike itself had been left in the car park with all the fairing panels , carb , airbox and top end removed and all in my apartment waiting for me to get the barrel replated. So basically it was in a visible state that said this isnt worth taking as only half the bike is there!

So yeah I just dont understand what the point was in rolling it out and just setting it on fire, hell they didnt even stick arount to watch the flames they just walked off? Now if they had taken it broken it and sold what was left then yeah ok, but to just set it on fire and go? Hopefully the cctv footage helps in catching them."



Now the bike itself was no further than 50 metres from my car park but before even notifying me it had been found the police had called a recovery company and had it removed. Copper said it was destroyed so had to be taken away?

So anyway I get a letter this morning from the recovery company wanting 150 charge for recovery of the vehicle plus £10 a day storage and that I need to come collect it... From what I saw of the CCTV the bike was burning for a good 10 mins before the fire brigade turned up so theres not going to be anything left but a burnt out frame so nothing worth going to collect.

Theres no insurance as 3rd party fire and theft for Salford + compulstory excess was more than the bikes worth plus I wasnt riding it anymore so where do i stand with not paying the fees? I didnt agree for them to take it, i wasnt aware they were taking it and to be honest I dont want the bike back?
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Black Knight
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 15 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's tough shit, you need to pay the fees.

You may be able to claim on your home insurance.
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Oz.
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PostPosted: 11:57 - 15 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black Knight wrote:
It's tough shit, you need to pay the fees.

You may be able to claim on your home insurance.


yeah but what laws or leglislation say I am responsible for paying these fees levied against me without my agreement?
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 15 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

It is a poor system as it leads to large fees in events like this.

However you can't get out of the fee. At best they can sell the remains and pay part of the fee with the proceeds from that.

This might help (at the bottom)

https://www.suffolk.police.uk/Useful+Information/Contact+Us/Frequently+Asked+Questions/Stolen+Vehicles.htm

All the best

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PostPosted: 12:02 - 15 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't pay if you're not going to collect the wreck.

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PostPosted: 12:03 - 15 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like life has dealt you a shitty card Sad .
Although the plod may have made matters worse by having it taken away, I think you need to blame the scum who nicked it in the first place.
Somehow I think you are going need to/end up paying the fees Sad .


sorry to hear about your bike!
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Oz.
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 15 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheer for that link keith, just did some reading:

What powers do the police have to remove stolen vehicles?

Section 99 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 permits the police to remove vehicles, which are Illegally, dangerously or obstructively parked or abandoned or broken down, whether or not they have been stolen.

Will I have to pay if the police recover my stolen vehicle and if so, how much?

There are statutory fees you are legally required to pay. The Government sets these in the form of statutory regulations, which they make under section 102(2) of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984.

just read those quoted sections:

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02 Charges for removal, storage and disposal of vehicles.

(1)The provisions of this section shall have effect where a vehicle—

(a)is removed from a parking place in pursuance of an order to which section 101 of this Act applies, or

(b)is removed from a road, or from land in the open air, in pursuance of regulations under section 99 of this Act.

[F7(2)If the place from which the vehicle is removed is in an area that is not a civil enforcement area for parking contraventions—

(a)the appropriate authority is entitled to recover from any person responsible such charges as may be prescribed in respect of the removal of the vehicle;

(b)the chief officer of a police force or a local authority in whose custody the vehicle is during any period is entitled to recover from any person responsible charges ascertained by reference to a prescribed scale in respect of that period; and

(c)the chief officer of a police force or a local authority who dispose of the vehicle in pursuance of section 101 of this Act is entitled to recover from any person responsible charges determined in the prescribed manner in respect of its disposal.


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(8)In this section—

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“person responsible”, in relation to a vehicle, means—
(a)

the owner of the vehicle at the time when it was put in the place from which it was removed as mentioned in subsection (1) above, unless he shows that he was not concerned in, and did not know of, its being put there;
(b)

any person by whom the vehicle was put in that place;
(c)

any person convicted of an offence under section 2(1) of the M2Refuse Disposal (Amenity) Act 1978 in consequence of the putting of the vehicle in that place; F1. . .



Hmm maybe I dont have to pay as I am not the person responsible for putting it where it was found?
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 15 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

When my zzr was taken and torched beyond any use I just rang the company that took it away and told them I wasn't going to be collecting it and they sent a form out to sign it over to them and there would be no fee's and that was the last I heard about it.
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