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PostPosted: 09:19 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Textiles are they as safe? Reply with quote

Turned my heated grips on yesterday ... clearly winter is here/on its way! Sad

Anyway, I have always been a 'leathers' man as I have never been convinced textiles will be as good in an off. Mostly as things (armour) looks like it will be able to move about everywhere as they are not as ridged as leather.

What do others think?
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Modern textile gear is very good.

Yes the protection moves about a bit. In the event of an off it does protect you, and they survive a trip down the road Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:31 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not as safe no, however it is more practical, especially in the winter, so you're more likely to wear it all of the time.
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Textiles are a lot more practical in the winter. Best thing to do is not fall off Wink
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have leather already - surely it's cheaper and more practical, and safer, and better, to buy thermals and a one piece rain suit?
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

carlosfandango wrote:
If you have leather already - surely it's cheaper and more practical, and safer, and better, to buy thermals and a one piece rain suit?


Not sure the extra 'faffing' required for 2 more layers is more practical ...
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh yeah - I forgot that spending 18 seconds pulling on thermals, slipping into your leathers as normal and then a further 29 seconds to step into your one piece will be overboard. What was I thinking.

I forgot that wearing stinking textiles (because unless you buy goretex the breathability claims are questionable) soaked and heavy with rain (but you might be dry?) covered in road crud, salt, is fashionable. Drying them out after the rain is a right laugh aswell - oh the joy.



I forgot that the waterproofing wears off and the seams leak, so you have to wash them, and reapply the waterproofing - is not faffing.

I forgot that if you get knocked off and the shoulder armour slips resulting in a severe fracture and snapped ligaments that gives you severe osteoporosis when your 50, is cool.

I forgot all of that.

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Leathers. Thermal under layer - buy 2 and wash them intermittently. Rain one piece and all the crud washes off you as you ride. Dry. Warm. Safe. Happy.

Faffing? think again Wink
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

carlosfandango wrote:
oh yeah - I forgot that spending 18 seconds pulling on thermals, slipping into your leathers as normal and then a further 29 seconds to step into your one piece will be overboard. What was I thinking.


18 seconds???? takes me longer than that just to make sure they are the right way round

29 seconds to put a one piece on???????????????????????

If I could find a one piece to fit that would be a start, just putting over trousers on is a ten minute job. Plus when you get to where you are going textiles are so much easier.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it is all cuffuffal ... that and all that movement, I get to about 1000degC and dripping wet from the inside before I've got outside!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a programme on discovery that did tests. In abrasion leather won, in impact protection the textiles nailed it.

I guess the thickness of textiles protects against blunt trauma in general better than 1.3mm of kangaroo/cowhide even if the armour slips about.

In short, it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other.
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
putting over trousers on is a ten minute job


Are you a spider? I personally only have two legs.
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing's safe on a bike. If you want safe, buy a Volvo Wink
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

carlosfandango wrote:
oh yeah - I forgot that spending 18 seconds pulling on thermals, slipping into your leathers as normal and then a further 29 seconds to step into your one piece will be overboard. What was I thinking.

I forgot that wearing stinking textiles (because unless you buy goretex the breathability claims are questionable) soaked and heavy with rain (but you might be dry?) covered in road crud, salt, is fashionable. Drying them out after the rain is a right laugh aswell - oh the joy.



I forgot that the waterproofing wears off and the seams leak, so you have to wash them, and reapply the waterproofing - is not faffing.

I forgot that if you get knocked off and the shoulder armour slips resulting in a severe fracture and snapped ligaments that gives you severe osteoporosis when your 50, is cool.

I forgot all of that.

Mr. Green

Leathers. Thermal under layer - buy 2 and wash them intermittently. Rain one piece and all the crud washes off you as you ride. Dry. Warm. Safe. Happy.

Faffing? think again Wink


Takes longer than that really, plus when you are hot/ sweating/ wet etc and at work its not something you want to faff around with, textiles would be alot easier.

Love my textile jacket, looks a bit moped/chavy but its totally water proof and wind proof. glad I bought mine Thumbs Up

Now I just need some warmer gloves, trousers and boots Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:58 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What jacket is it? Im after a moped one Very Happy Minus the chav bit if possible Razz
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have textiles, although I need to buy new one's. My current jacket lets water through around my shoulders and elbow. Haven't crashed in them so can't comment on durability. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sendaman wrote:
What jacket is it? Im after a moped one Very Happy Minus the chav bit if possible Razz


RST (checks) damn can't find it, but its some uber warm and dry rst jacket Laughing

EDIT: To say its a bit like the razor, it has two removable linings, and knox armour in it Thumbs Up

Got it for about £70 at the NEC bike show last year so think the model is discontinued but it retailed at £100 + in most places I checked after
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rift? What colour Confused

I was looking at blue or gun but it looks so much nicer in black.
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sendaman wrote:
Rift? What colour Confused

I was looking at blue or gun but it looks so much nicer in black.


Well I don't know the actual model but sure it begins with "R" Laughing and is textile Razz

Mine is black Smile
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PostPosted: 21:07 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it this? And is it dry? Had any offs yet? Any other comments? Razz
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PostPosted: 21:15 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool lol im yet to meet a biker that looks quite that gay!
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crashed in my textiles today, I am not sure exactly what was from the rolling (not sliding) and what was from being run over but the only damage on the jacket and trousers was a small hole in the back of the left knee. Impact etc protection did the job as I only have some small bruising on my lower back/hip. (where there is no protection). The rest of the injury is just from my knee being run over.
I landed from moderately high up and it seems they kept me all pretty safe. The trousers do have this rather pathetic double mesh on the 'non key' areas like the back of the knee which I doubt offers much abrasion resistance at all.
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sendaman wrote:
Is it this? And is it dry? Had any offs yet? Any other comments? Razz


No that's not it Laughing Haven't crashed in it or got it dirty lol.

All I can say is I rate it for winter Thumbs Up

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EDIT: Pretty damn sure its the RST Ventilator Laughing


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PostPosted: 21:57 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who cares about safety if you don't drop.

I wore my leathers today, and my elbows got soaked. Time for the textiles to come out to keep me dry and warm.
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well thats shot cos that looks really good. Well it looks like Ill go for the rift then going on what I have heard before and what CHR15 has said Karma
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 16 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just found out they have brought out a new jacket called the Ventilator II. Semms really good. Think I may get this as its got all of the features of the Rift and it doesn't look as gay. AND it has a removable waterproof liner so it can be used in the summer hence Ventilator.

Think I may get this. Anyone got it yet? Reviews seem good on the net.
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