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PostPosted: 14:58 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Licence for Quad/trike Reply with quote

What licence / entitlement do you need for these as far as I am aware you need to have a Car/bike licence prior to 2000 to have the entitlement or can you run them on a full bike licence?
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either
A) Full car licence
B) Bike licence obtained before 2001.
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Licence for Quad/trike Reply with quote

Thanks thought it was somthing like that
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually trike's can be ridden on a provisional car license, you have to display L plates tho and cant carry passengers and technically they have to be single seaters


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PostPosted: 15:28 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pedd wrote:
Actually trike's can be ridden on a provisional car license, you have to display L plates tho and cant carry passengers and technically they have to be single seaters


HTH


Ped is correct, as is trus. I shall not go boom right now. I shall wait. Smile
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pedd wrote:
Actually trike's can be ridden on a provisional car license, you have to display L plates tho and cant carry passengers and technically they have to be single seaters


HTH


my ex- gf recently bought some trike contraption, & the scary thing is, you dont need to do a CBT, you just need L-plates & it has to be a single seater.
just need a provisional licence with B1 entitlement.
scary stuff, seeing as the thing was massive & something like 800cc! (that, & she couldnt ride bikes very well!)
it all depends on what its registered as on the log book, iirc theres 4 different classifications & its pretty complicated. (car,bike,tricycle & something else?)
the hardest thing is getting them insured & getting them motd.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

From memory they may be registered as 1 three wheeled bike (yes I know) which can be ridden on class A, as a trike/light car which requires class B1 or as a car (tis weight dependant from memory) which requires class B.

If you think the law around 33bhp is shabby the laws about trikes are something else.

Oh and the reason that class B1 was stripped from Class A licences was a government study called Safer Motorcycling (the cunts) that concluded that driving a car is better preperation for riding a trike than riding a bike is.

Bunch of fucking twats obviously have NEVER ridden a trike and dont have a fucking clue how they handle, because while a trike doesn't handle as either a bike or car it is a damn site closer to handling like a bike.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

So let me get this straight, at the moment, with no license/valid CBT, other than the little provisional card and counterpart you send off for, I can go out and buy any size trike and ride it legally on the road?
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moonie wrote:
So let me get this straight, at the moment, with no license/valid CBT, other than the little provisional card and counterpart you send off for, I can go out and buy any size trike and ride it legally on the road?


You need a licence with provisional B1 catagory which is a pain to get from the DVLA but essentially yes.
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

How would I go about getting such a license?

And how much would it cost?
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moonie wrote:
How would I go about getting such a license?

And how much would it cost?


Harass the DVLA, should cost nothing as far as I am aware.

After six months of getting nowhere with them I gave up and just rode it on my class B planning to argue that the class B1 is a subsection of class B if it ever went to court <bad Kal - no biscuit>
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kal wrote:

just rode it on my class B planning to argue that the class B1 is a subsection of class B


As far as I'm aware this is true ( I did the same lol) so basically as long as your 17 or over with a provisional car license (cat b) you can drive any cc trike (single seat or full license holder on board) as long as L plates are attached:)

I know of several people who ride trikes on a learner car license, As said there is no cc restriction either. One of the trikes is a 2.8 auto lol
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone here managed to get a B1 provisional?
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is feasible to have the B1 classification without the B - you can even take a B1 only test - however most test centres will look blankly at you if you try.
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moonie wrote:
Has anyone here managed to get a B1 provisional?


You dont need b1 specifically as its a sub category of B, So my missus (who only has provisional car/bike with cbt) can legally ride any cc trike s long as L plates are attached. (she only has B on her license)
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PostPosted: 18:06 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moonie wrote:
Has anyone here managed to get a B1 provisional?

yes, my ex.
she sent her old provisional back to dvla with a change of address & asked for it to be added (B1) as the insurers demanded it.
came back 3 weeks later with it on.
she could then jump on this f*cking massive thing (& she is tiny) & do silly speeds.
i had a go, & its a weird thing to ride/drive, certainly closer to bike, but taking up as much room as a car.
scary thing is, my ex couldnt master a tiny little rg125 gamma but copes well on the trike.
as soon as she got it insured over the phone, she was screaming up the dual carriageway at 60 (looking like a demented witch), with me worrying like f*ck behind her.
certainly beats any 125.,
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Insurance must be a bastard on them though?
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam_Y_93 wrote:
Insurance must be a bastard on them though?


Not really, if I remember correctly the insurance on the CX500 trike was lower than insuring a CB500.
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PostPosted: 18:23 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm its making me interested Thinking

Although they have got to be awful to ride, not exactly fun. If only I had of known about it before I done my test
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam_Y_93 wrote:
Hmmm its making me interested Thinking

Although they have got to be awful to ride, not exactly fun. If only I had of known about it before I done my test


Different to ride, but actually quite fun most of the time - more of challenge to make progress on and if you are in a squid frame of mind you can legally ride wihtout a helmet.
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can imagine it is errm interesting to ride. And if out for a spin you would have to wear a lid anything above 30/40 with my visor open and my eyes water terribly, also the state my visor gets in the summer I would hate for that to be my face Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any vehicle with less than 4 wheels weighing less than 410kg is classified as a motorcycle and can be driven on a full bike license if over 410 kg must have a car license
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Growler wrote:
Any vehicle with less than 4 wheels weighing less than 410kg is classified as a motorcycle and can be driven on a full bike license if over 410 kg must have a car license


Depending on what the V5c says. A lot of trike V5c's say trike and requre a B1, a few say three-wheeled motorcycle and are class A.

There is also some dodgy legislation about the width between two wheels on one axle - hence the dodge Tomahawk could be classified as a motorcycle despite its weight.

Sam_Y_93 wrote:
I can imagine it is errm interesting to ride. And if out for a spin you would have to wear a lid anything above 30/40 with my visor open and my eyes water terribly, also the state my visor gets in the summer I would hate for that to be my face Laughing


I got our trike up to 80mph, another member on here who I know could be quicker wore sunglasses everywhere.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

So even if the trike was classed as a motorbike, I'm taking it even with a full car licence, you cant ride it unless you have a bike one?

Although you can ride the heavier ones classed as cars?
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 18 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ignore the weight for the moment, and just conentrate on what the V5c says.

Essentially it is possible to have two identical trikes which weight less than 450. One has been registered as a Trike requiring class B1 to ride and one registered as a three wheeled motorbike requiring class A instead...

It caused me a few nosebleeds. If you are really interested then NABD are the people to go ask.

The law for trikes is a balls ache. Once it is built its not so bad, just look at the documents.
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