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PostPosted: 14:30 - 19 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
mattsprattuk wrote:

''every soldier or semen is egotistical and looks down on those who use a qualification to get a job that probably pays better than theirs'' - mattsprattuk


I would rather do a job I enjoy and earn 20k for example than a job I hate and earn 50k. I'm sure many others are the same.

I want to join the Army, I know there is a chance of getting killed, but, there is a chance of getting killed walking to work at Tescos. But if I don't die, it could be the best thing I ever do, with skills that will stay for life.

I tend to give money to small charities, there is a restbite home for children with disabilities near me, started off small, but now can afford to advertise on a bus, whole bus is covered with it, something like 98% of the money raised goes to admin costs.

If I'm giving money to someone, I want as much as possible to go to kids for example, rather than paying for someone to have a better chair in the office.

Voted by the way! How often do votes count?
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 19 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
LosingGrip wrote:

But if I don't die, it could be the best thing I ever do, with skills that will stay for life.

Do talk to some people that have left the army if you haven't.
Unless you do want to go and be a mercenary or the like (and then you do need to have got somewhere in the Army I believe) then generally I'd say very few of the skills help much.
I've known quite a few people who have left the services and had problems finding work - despite their claims, most of the stuff they use is bespoke and doesn't transfer well to 'civvy' life.
Seen quite a few end up with building security jobs and similar as it's presumed you can handle yourself in stressful situations (even though generally told not to do anything) and are good at 'boring' stuff.

These days it seems it's possibly even worth to some degree because they are more worried you'll have PTSD etc.
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JimmyJames
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 19 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
I haven't been on this forum for over two years because of the arrogance and general over opinionated unfriendliness of the place, boy you lot give off bad vibes! Hows about you see things from a different angle besides your own, go on; think outside your little world for one minute. If you do you realise that these soldiers protect your freedom and give you the life you have (or dont) today. I'm not a spammer else i wouldn't be typing this now. Thanks to everyone who genuinely helped out with the voting which has and will carry on regardless. Mods please delete me as a member and all of my posts including this thread, i have no interest in giving anything further to this site!
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G
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 19 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Tut Tut, flouncing in a huff doesn't really help your cause Wink.

If you don't want to use this site, don't visit. Very simple with no need for anything to be deleted.

So 'thinking outside the box' means believing what the government

Do you believe we would have the same worries of Muslin terrorism if we hadn't invaded two Islamic countries (to be fair it has significantly reduced the amount of Christian terrorism)?
Do you believe the many documented abuses against natives in the lands we have occupied has positively protected the freedom I enjoy?

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i have no interest in giving anything further to this site!

I thought you were taking not giving? That your whole reason for returning here was to fraudulently affect a competition?

Replying again doesn't really prove you're not a spammer.
And yes, this forum often does give off 'bad vibes' towards people they could spammers, terrible that. Also a good test of those that believe in their cause and just want some free publicity Wink.
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 19 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
G wrote:
many good points


For what its worth (not much granted) I agree with G on his points on the charidee in this case.
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JimmyJames
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 19 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
I simply feel for the widdows and their families who have been stripped of their loved ones and have not been adequately compensated for it. Lets face it, its not their fault the person they choose to love is in the armed forces (although some perhaps see it as a turn on, uniform and all that). I have my own beliefs on war and see it as a last resort and certainly dont condone charging in and fighting other peoples battles but its the way it is unfortunatly. I'm not in a huff and TBH wasn't asking much so take it or leave it. Sorry if my last post was a bit offensive but certain members have offended me with their views. Sun charity or not its still a charity and its a worthy one (in my opinion of course).

Its only a fraudulent competition if votes are falsely generated, those who voted did so of their own free will and all i have done is raise awareness of the cause Thumbs Up
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G
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 19 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
You'll certainly have to do more than to offend me at least Wink.

A lot of what my tax money pays for and what people representing our country does offend me.

I might have replied differently if you had been trying to support a different charity, one for instance that isn't in the popular eye so much; such as a military one which has seriously suffered since Help for Heroes got popular and also supports a wider range of ex-services people (ie more involved in previous conflicts, etc).
I do also get annoyed by the "it's for charridy, innit" attitude if anyone says anything negative about such.
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JimmyJames
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 19 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
G wrote:
A lot of what my tax money pays for and what people representing our country does offend me.


You and every British citizen, i would think. I work for a government organisation (emergency service) but because we are not as well known as the police etc we are frontline for all the pay freezes and job cuts even though we are saving lives on a daily basis 24 hours a day.

G wrote:
I might have replied differently if you had been trying to support a different charity, one for instance that isn't in the popular eye so much; such as a military one which has seriously suffered since Help for Heroes got popular and also supports a wider range of ex-services people (ie more involved in previous conflicts, etc).


Tell me more! I didn't realise there was a similar charity to H4H.
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JimmyJames
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 19 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
BTW i am still one of you! Just sold my Firestorm and i'm back riding my fightered SV650 (first and best bike) again, NOT A SPAMMER!
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 19 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://www.poppy.org.uk/ - probably still bigger than help for heroes (can't be bothered to check).

Some others:
https://www.soldierscharity.org/
https://www.rafbf.org/
https://www.rnbt.org.uk/

Lots more here - https://www.charitychoice.co.uk/searchresult.asp?category=ARMD
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bazza
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 19 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
JimmyJames wrote:
Tell me more! I didn't realise there was a similar charity to H4H.


Royal British Legion? SSAFA? Both have been around a lot longer than H4H - which, incidentally, has allowed the government to shirk its responsibilities towards its troops by taking a back seat in funding the Military Covenant properly.
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JimmyJames
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PostPosted: 19:25 - 19 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
G wrote:
https://www.poppy.org.uk/ - probably still bigger than help for heroes (can't be bothered to check).

Some others:
https://www.soldierscharity.org/
https://www.rafbf.org/
https://www.rnbt.org.uk/

Lots more here - https://www.charitychoice.co.uk/searchresult.asp?category=ARMD


I always donate to the Poppy appeal and i see where you are coming from. The problem for us is we want maximum coverage and money to make the project worthwhile afterall the poptop alone is £1500 to buy which has been donated, the forum itself stumped up the cash to buy the base van you see on the Coolwall plus all the time and effort put into it from the forum members and the other significant parts donations generously recieved. It wouldn't be worth doing unless we made some serious money for the cause. As you say, its in the limelight which means most people dont mind spending out where as the lesser known charities might make them reluctant. Certainly the parts suppliers who have given big £££ parts wouldn't be so interested if they didn't get the advertising coverage by having their names mentioned in the credits. The last show alone made £3500 in ticket sales £2 a pop and we want to keep going to see how far we can take it. I do feel for the other charities and hopefully my garbled response makes sense.

You probably gathered that the van isn't even close to getting the work moving as yet but its going to be a serious bit of kit when its done Thumbs Up
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