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PostPosted: 23:32 - 19 Oct 2010    Post subject: Waterproof Clothing.. Reply with quote
Looking at getting a 2 piece waterproof suit as the job I'll be starting in November requires me to wear their uniform, and I'm not that far away (15mins riding in traffic) and I don't want to wearing full textile gear for a short ride when I'm gonna be working pretty hard (not to mention their lockers aren't huge so haven't got room to store full textile suit).

I was looking at this click me which seems pretty good based on the reviews, cheap and doesn't look ugly as sin..

Wondering if anyone has any views on any other suits (needs to be 2 piece) they've used which they would recommend?

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PostPosted: 08:32 - 20 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 20 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: Waterproof Clothing.. Reply with quote
tvchimp wrote:
Looking at getting a 2 piece waterproof suit as the job I'll be starting in November requires me to wear their uniform, and I'm not that far away (15mins riding in traffic) and I don't want to wearing full textile gear for a short ride when I'm gonna be working pretty hard (not to mention their lockers aren't huge so haven't got room to store full textile suit).

I was looking at this click me which seems pretty good based on the reviews, cheap and doesn't look ugly as sin..

Wondering if anyone has any views on any other suits (needs to be 2 piece) they've used which they would recommend?

Thanks.

Robert.


I use two piece textile but for what you want a one piece would provide more practicality.
There are one piece suits that use one long zip from lower leg to opposite upper torso.
They roll up into a ball for stowage too.

The hassle with two piece crap is that you can't seal it properly between top and bottom.
The wind whips the jacket up your back and water runs down the crack of yer arse. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 20 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
You can get one/two piece waterproofs with padding. J&S do them.
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PostPosted: 10:55 - 20 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: Waterproof Clothing.. Reply with quote
Walloper wrote:
tvchimp wrote:
Looking at getting a 2 piece waterproof suit as the job I'll be starting in November requires me to wear their uniform, and I'm not that far away (15mins riding in traffic) and I don't want to wearing full textile gear for a short ride when I'm gonna be working pretty hard (not to mention their lockers aren't huge so haven't got room to store full textile suit).

I was looking at this click me which seems pretty good based on the reviews, cheap and doesn't look ugly as sin..

Wondering if anyone has any views on any other suits (needs to be 2 piece) they've used which they would recommend?

Thanks.

Robert.


I use two piece textile but for what you want a one piece would provide more practicality.
There are one piece suits that use one long zip from lower leg to opposite upper torso.
They roll up into a ball for stowage too.

The hassle with two piece crap is that you can't seal it properly between top and bottom.
The wind whips the jacket up your back and water runs down the crack of yer arse. Crying or Very sad


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PostPosted: 11:07 - 20 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 20 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Those oversuits are all very well over leathers, but when it gets fooking cold over the winter months, you are going to wish you got something a bit more substantial.

My commute is only 6 miles/15 mins and my hands were numb on a few occasions last winter.
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PostPosted: 11:16 - 20 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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tvchimp..i am new her can you give me some info
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Thanks a lot''

how to deal with depression
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Walloper wrote:

I use two piece textile but for what you want a one piece would provide more practicality.
There are one piece suits that use one long zip from lower leg to opposite upper torso.
They roll up into a ball for stowage too.

The hassle with two piece crap is that you can't seal it properly between top and bottom.
The wind whips the jacket up your back and water runs down the crack of yer arse. Crying or Very sad


hmm... didn't really wanna go for a 1 piece. They definitly make an improvement over a 2 piece? I'm gonna have a backpack on most of my time so might not have the issue of the wind causing the jacket to go up the back and water down my backside.
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 20 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 20 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
CarlosCBR wrote:
Those oversuits are all very well over leathers, but when it gets fooking cold over the winter months, you are going to wish you got something a bit more substantial.

My commute is only 6 miles/15 mins and my hands were numb on a few occasions last winter.


Aye, I've invested in some much better gloves than I had last year, got them a bit wet yesterday when had to do some errands in the rain, they're much better and warmer so hopefully will withstand the winter conditions better.

Rest of my gear is a army issue balaclava, steel toe cap boots, and work uniform (trousers/t-shirt/jumper) underneath the waterproofs so i should be fairly warm and then gloves/helmet.. I own some thermals too so could wear those but not sure I'll need them..
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 20 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
tvchimp wrote:
CarlosCBR wrote:
Those oversuits are all very well over leathers, but when it gets fooking cold over the winter months, you are going to wish you got something a bit more substantial.

My commute is only 6 miles/15 mins and my hands were numb on a few occasions last winter.


Aye, I've invested in some much better gloves than I had last year, got them a bit wet yesterday when had to do some errands in the rain, they're much better and warmer so hopefully will withstand the winter conditions better.

Rest of my gear is a army issue balaclava, steel toe cap boots, and work uniform (trousers/t-shirt/jumper) underneath the waterproofs so i should be fairly warm and then gloves/helmet.. I own some thermals too so could wear those but not sure I'll need them..


For rain tuck your gloves into the cuffs of your jacket. Rain runs down your sleeve into the glove otherwise.
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PostPosted: 13:18 - 20 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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For rain tuck your gloves into the cuffs of your jacket. Rain runs down your sleeve into the glove otherwise.


I've always had the opposite experience, if you tuck the gloves into the cuffs, rain is forced into the sleeves of your jacket as you ride.
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 20 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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For rain tuck your gloves into the cuffs of your jacket. Rain runs down your sleeve into the glove otherwise.


I've always had the opposite experience, if you tuck the gloves into the cuffs, rain is forced into the sleeves of your jacket as you ride.


Is that noticed only on re-entry you absolute hooligan you? Laughing
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I've always had the opposite experience, if you tuck the gloves into the cuffs, rain is forced into the sleeves of your jacket as you ride.


Is that noticed only on re-entry you absolute hooligan you? Laughing


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PostPosted: 15:41 - 20 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: Waterproof Clothing.. Reply with quote
tvchimp wrote:
...Wondering if anyone has any views on any other suits (needs to be 2 piece) they've used which they would recommend?...

Why must it be a 2 piece? Please explain.

As Walloper said above a one piece rain suit is more practical.
I got an old Hein Gericke one of e-bay and now swear by it.

Recently had to get into work on missus' scooter due to problems with transport. Proved ok (wear black jeans and textile motorcycle jacket underneath). Far easier than messing about with other waterproofs. At a pinch I could have got away with just some waterproof leggings.

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PostPosted: 23:57 - 20 Oct 2010    Post subject: Re: Waterproof Clothing.. Reply with quote
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Why must it be a 2 piece? Please explain.


If it's only light rain, I wont need to wear the jacket (would be able to get away with my old textile jacket + waterproof trousers) but if it's something more substantial I'd wear the waterproof jacket on top. My old jacket is ok for light rain and short journeys, it's warm but completely had it on the waterproofing (it was my dads old jacket, he'd owned it a fair while) and until I can get around replacing it (looking at 2nd pay cheque from the new job) wouldn't be able to afford it. Hence me looking at a 2 piece decent suit.

I think it may be a case of buying the 2 piece for ease of use atm, then replacing it with a 1 piece in a few months, I may be able to get my money back on it as I've got a few friends who ride and might be able to palm it off on them (That's the plan anyway Laughing )
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PostPosted: 01:24 - 21 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
FinnDave wrote:
I've always had the opposite experience, if you tuck the gloves into the cuffs, rain is forced into the sleeves of your jacket as you ride.


Never noticed it being much of a problem with a decent jacket, but then I tended to use muffs during the harsher times of year when I was out all day.
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FinnDave wrote:
I've always had the opposite experience, if you tuck the gloves into the cuffs, rain is forced into the sleeves of your jacket as you ride.


Never noticed it being much of a problem with a decent jacket, but then I tended to use muffs during the harsher times of year when I was out all day.


I don't believe the construction or material of the jacket has any bearing on the effect of water running into your gloves.
It's more of a problem in town when you are stopped or riding at slower speeds.
The water weeps into the glove because it has ran down the sleeves. The cuff of the glove acts like a wick and draws water in.
Once it's in there it can only escape by vaporization from body heat. This evaporation steals heat from your hands which doesn't add anything to the comfort factor of riding in the wet.

I use hi-end gear and no matter what style of jacket I am wearing at the time water runs down my sleeve into my gloves.

I use Gortex/Shelltex gloves and jackets which maybe exacerbates the effect.

Less water will get into your glove if the glove cuff is tucked inside the sleeves Newtons 1st principle of motorcycling hydraulics. Smile
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 21 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Walloper wrote:
FinnDave wrote:
I've always had the opposite experience, if you tuck the gloves into the cuffs, rain is forced into the sleeves of your jacket as you ride.



I don't believe the construction or material of the jacket has any bearing on the effect of water running into your gloves.
It's more of a problem in town when you are stopped or riding at slower speeds.


That'll be it, then, I don't ride in towns or at low speeds, no need to to where I live.
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Walloper wrote:
I don't believe the construction or material of the jacket has any bearing on the effect of water running into your gloves.
It's more of a problem in town when you are stopped or riding at slower speeds.
The water weeps into the glove because it has ran down the sleeves. The cuff of the glove acts like a wick and draws water in.
Once it's in there it can only escape by vaporization from body heat. This evaporation steals heat from your hands which doesn't add anything to the comfort factor of riding in the wet.

I use hi-end gear and no matter what style of jacket I am wearing at the time water runs down my sleeve into my gloves.

I use Gortex/Shelltex gloves and jackets which maybe exacerbates the effect.

Less water will get into your glove if the glove cuff is tucked inside the sleeves Newtons 1st principle of motorcycling hydraulics. Smile


Spent 6 years on the distance circuit then another 5 as an in house dizzy for a photographic lab in the Midlands, riding all day every day in town and on the motorways orbiting Birmingham. Company supplied gear from HG, I used the Touareg jacket as a rule, there's an elasticated inner cuff on them as well as a zippable external one. Fold the external cuff back, tighten glove over inner cuff, push external cuff forward and zip it as tight as it'll go. Bingo, dry hands Very Happy

I agree with your points about wicking, without a waterproof inner on the sleeve it will hit the glove liner in fairly short order (motorway spray is a particular bastard for doing this, in the same way it'll seep UP trouser legs if you don't arrange your boots well).

Those ridiculous overboots and a set of muffs were brilliant for really heavy rain, another layer running interference. Not that you can ever keep the hands and feet truly dry in a 14 hour downpour Laughing
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