A Utopian Society.

[Hetzer]

Post your solutions here. The whole gig, not just bits of one. Broad brush-strokes are fine, but not too broad.
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[Itchy]

Neo-post industrial market communism.

NO really.

Companies are automating like crazy and therefore need less people. Hence too many people problem and not enough jobs. As a single man can run a farm instead of the 100s needed in the past.

Corporates currently have a somebody else's problem field when they outsource or automate. As when they do this they inadvertantly destroy their own customer base. What happens when everything is outsourced or automated? These companies suffer a collaspe in demand.

Therefore companies have a choice, client demand collaspe, as above which is actually happening in the USA as jobs moved to China. Or high taxes... BUT taxes based on EHUs, Equivilent human units. Therefore if a machine churns out 1000 times faster than a human they get taxed heavily. Say 60%, but remember the other option is to simply die from dried up consumer demand.

This 60% is based across all industries. It is absolutely flat. Sure it is high but this is put into the hands of the people at a very basic frugal living wage.

This is frugal to prevent human atrophy, people can spend all day watching TV if they want. Or they can do something on the government list. Which gets them paid extra and thus rewards them for their work.

This might be research
Environmental things

Companies live and die based on consumer demand therefore if a company makes a shoddy product nobody buys it and it still collaspes. The company owner still gets his citizens wage and the 40% untaxed bit and thus is rewarded for his or her efforts.


Pre-requisites:
Beneviolent absolutist government which can never be voted out of power. Else the party is voted out for short term votes.

Cheap energy

Abundant and cheap resources else the party comes to an end quickly
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[trevoriv]

Itchy, you should write a book.

I would buy it.
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[oldpink]

easy remove politics & religion
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[blurredman]

Abolish Parliament, then make me king!
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[tatters]

A utopian society would be a pre-industral farming society no bigger than a few small scattered towns and villages people working to provided the basics of shealther and food and spending most of there time enjoying a care free life.
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[oldpink]

[Chalky.]

Kill the lot of them. Then I'll rule the world.

I'll have sex with the corses if needs be

[blurredman]

[Ariel Badger]

In a Utopian society the use of "a" and "an" would be a lot easier.
The OP got it wrong, although Utopian begins with a vowel it sounds as a "y" so it takes the consonant "a" rather than "an".
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[Black Knight]

Mad Max.

That is all.
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[Gone]

Allow all to carry arms, abolish govt, let anarchy reign, learn to use articles correctly.

[oldpink]

[Charlie]

Impossible with human beings. Everyones idea of Utopia is different, to make a Utopia would require everyone being the same/having the same views and beliefs, I fail to see how that could ever be Utopia. Variety in people is what makes interacting with them interesting, no-one can deny that. And a place where everyone is the same would be boring, hence not Utopia.

A society trying to achieve Utopia could perhaps be classed as Utopia. The discussions and ideas created would be fascinating and maybe, even humbling to be apart of. However for the people discussing it, they'd never reach a Utopian society. Maybe dreaming of Utopia is Utopia for human beings.
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[colin1]

Utopian society is clearly fantasy world, but if we compare society down the ages, I think on balance, modern society is the best.

We take for granted so much stuff.

To us primitive hunter gathering a subsistence farming sounds idylic, but actually, your wife may die in childbirth, and if the crops fail you are fucked.

What people want, is the social aspects of that society, or what they feel it may be like. However, within any society, there is a pecking order, and your position within it, is going to be a reason to fight and bicker.

In our modern society, we can choose our social circle and fill it with people who fit our needs, rather than having to conform to the tight requirements of someone else.

So I'd say Utopian society would be a lot like our society, but people had all managed to get what they wanted out of life, right work-life balance etc.
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[Charlie]

Furthering my post, you could even go on to say that if you live in a society where you can dream of Utopia, then maybe you're in some form of Utopia.
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[Hetzer]

[Charlie]

What is your view Hetzer
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[defblade]

The tale of Utopia was a warning.

Not a good place, in the long run.
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[blurredman]

Has anyone here actually read the book 'Utopia' by Thomas More (Henry VIII Lord Chancellor) first published 1516?
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[nowhere.elysium]

[blurredman]

[SirEdward]

Science as the main guidance as opposed to religion; especially astrophysics.

Depopulation of the human race to 'sustainable levels' with a cap on breeding.

Technocratic government for starters, as a first step towards utopia.

And... technology, technology and even more technology development to the point of a conscious Artificial Intelligence which could 'govern' (manage) the peoples of the Earth. (edit: Manage the activities which are repetitive to a human being but nevertheless are vital to progress.)

Last but not least - colonisation of either the Moon or Mars, or both as a means of setting the policy of "No turning back.".



Post Scriptum:

You are not going to achieve a Utopian Society on planet Earth without exploring other Heavenly bodies in Space and making permament settlements there.

Reason for this being - the vast majority of the population living on Terra are totally ignorant of Life and long-term survival instincts.
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[SirEdward]