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Asharin
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 26 Oct 2010    Post subject: I'm either going to be really happy...UPDATE, got it. Reply with quote
Update below (here: https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=2665787#2665787 )
or really pissed off tomorrow.
I've done something I NEVER do..I bought a bike off ebay, 'Buy it now' without looking at it first.
Of course, it's cash on collection so it it is not as advertised I'll just walk away.
However £500 for a Yamaha Virago 125 is cheaper than the average (usually over £1k round here) so I decided to take a risk, as I'm getting fed up of cycling everywhere (still not got my bike back yet :/ )

When March/April next year comes around I'll just sell whichever bike I like the least Smile Which will probably be the Hyosung, as I'd wanted a Virago for ages but they were always too costly Razz

-edit typos (if I missed any...you can keep 'em)

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PostPosted: 13:01 - 26 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
i did exactly the same thing when i bought my first bike.

talked to the guy on the phone a number of times, got an idea of the type of person he was and bought it.

£1210 for a 97 CBR600F and it was sweet as a nut!

only 'off' thing i found was that it was the white/red/black fairing whereas the frame colour code was for a black one. didnt even notice that until i stripped it to turn it into my trackbike so hardly an issue.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 26 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ah fair play. Yeah you can walk away I guess, so who cares! Worth the gamble imo.

Good luck and stuff.
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 26 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
mysterious_rider wrote:
Ah fair play. Yeah you can walk away I guess, so who cares! Worth the gamble imo.

Good luck and stuff.


A bidder won my Daytona...came and looked at it and said he didnt like it... Evil or Very Mad
So I had to relist it, ebay got the fees back, but you enter a contract that if you win it, you pay for it. Only arseholes bid and walk away.. (unless its actually totally the opposite/very badly described *light rust* turns out to be worn through etc..)
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 26 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
go for it, nothing ventured etc .
I bought my 1st 125 completly unseen from a private ad in preloved and travelled about 95 miles to fetch it.
It was spot on even better than he described and took me thru both tests fine, even sold it for a profit at the end.
sometimes I just randomly go with gut feeling especially if its cheap Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 26 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
##Paddy## wrote:
mysterious_rider wrote:
Ah fair play. Yeah you can walk away I guess, so who cares! Worth the gamble imo.

Good luck and stuff.


A bidder won my Daytona...came and looked at it and said he didnt like it... Evil or Very Mad
So I had to relist it, ebay got the fees back, but you enter a contract that if you win it, you pay for it. Only arseholes bid and walk away.. (unless its actually totally the opposite/very badly described *light rust* turns out to be worn through etc..)


really?

I'd never walk out on an auction, if i bought it, and it was as described id pay up.

I listed my z50 on ebay a while back, it didnt reach reserve, but someone bid, ebay charged me 30 quid, and i decided to keep the bike. so im 30 notes out of pocked. Sad
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 26 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
mysterious_rider wrote:

I listed my z50 on ebay a while back, it didnt reach reserve, but someone bid, ebay charged me 30 quid, and i decided to keep the bike. so im 30 notes out of pocked. Sad


Just like if you paid to advertise it in a bike mag Wink
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 26 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I listed my z50 on ebay a while back, it didnt reach reserve, but someone bid, ebay charged me 30 quid, and i decided to keep the bike. so im 30 notes out of pocked. Sad


Lulz @ irrelevance.

You paid the insertion fee, it's not as if a buyer backed out of the deal and you still had to pay the final value fees for some reason.
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PostPosted: 17:04 - 26 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
mysterious_rider wrote:
I listed my z50 on ebay a while back, it didnt reach reserve, but someone bid, ebay charged me 30 quid, and i decided to keep the bike. so im 30 notes out of pocked. Sad

It doesn't work like that.

If bidding didn't reach the reserve then eBay wouldn't have charged you a final value fee, you'd just have paid the £8 listing fee.
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Asharin
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PostPosted: 17:12 - 26 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
##Paddy## wrote:
mysterious_rider wrote:
Ah fair play. Yeah you can walk away I guess, so who cares! Worth the gamble imo.

Good luck and stuff.


A bidder won my Daytona...came and looked at it and said he didnt like it... Evil or Very Mad
So I had to relist it, ebay got the fees back, but you enter a contract that if you win it, you pay for it. Only arseholes bid and walk away.. (unless its actually totally the opposite/very badly described *light rust* turns out to be worn through etc..)

Yeah I'll only walk away if it's totally not as described and a bag of shit. I hate people that bid and walk too, it'd have to be a real wreck for me to refuse..especially at the price..in other words I shall likely buy it Smile
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 26 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
If you walk away you may get a summons letter from money claim.

When I bought my bike on ebay without seeing I just went there, filled in v5 etc and handed him the money without seeing the bike. Then he gave me the keys and showed the bike. (He was a 75 year old proper British gentleman btw Laughing )
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 26 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think it would be unlikely that winning an ebay auction would be legally binding.

I would stick to my word with small purchases, but with a purchase of £1000 or more, I would not give a shit about getting negative feedback, if I though that it would be a bad idea to buy the item after I saw it.
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PostPosted: 18:51 - 26 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
colin1 wrote:
I think it would be unlikely that winning an ebay auction would be legally binding.

Win an auction on eBay and you've made a legally binding contract so the seller could take you to court if you didn't pay. You decide if it's a good idea to buy the item before bidding because you're bidding to buy the item not to have first refusal.
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 26 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ok well I'd doubt it would go to court. Either way, I'd take the risk if on seeing it I decided I'd made a mistake.
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PostPosted: 07:22 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Has it arrived yet?
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nah tonight I go get it.
Can't wait Smile Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
mysterious_rider wrote:
I listed my z50 on ebay a while back, it didnt reach reserve, but someone bid, ebay charged me 30 quid, and i decided to keep the bike. so im 30 notes out of pocked. Sad

It doesn't work like that.

If bidding didn't reach the reserve then eBay wouldn't have charged you a final value fee, you'd just have paid the £8 listing fee.


I beg to differ.
When i listed my fish tank i set a reserve of £500. Paid the insertion fee.
When it didn't meet the reserve and didn't sell they still billed me something like £70 on top. Like hell i'd pay more fees if the item didn't sell. Argues with them for a while and ended up closing my ebay account because they was retards and started putting penalties on top for not paying it. Ended up at over £100 in the end. So it cost me over £100 total NOT to get my item sold.


On topic.
Unless the engine is shot and the frame is rusted through it's very hard not to get a really nice looking virago with a bit of cleaning and polishing. They're such good looking bikes and takes nothing to get to look nice.

We bought an absolute shitter virago 535 last year for the missus. When i went to pick it up it looked a lot worse than in the pictures and i was a bit gutted. But i got it and when it got cleaned and polished the chrome came up really nice with only a little pitting in it. The bike looks absolutely stunning now with only minor stuff done to it. Like a quick respray of the mudguards.
I couldn't believe how nice it turned out from the state it was in when we got it.
Don't walk away from it when you go to pick it up unless it's literally falling apart Smile
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
TwoSock wrote:

On topic.
Unless the engine is shot and the frame is rusted through it's very hard not to get a really nice looking virago with a bit of cleaning and polishing. They're such good looking bikes and takes nothing to get to look nice.

We bought an absolute shitter virago 535 last year for the missus. When i went to pick it up it looked a lot worse than in the pictures and i was a bit gutted. But i got it and when it got cleaned and polished the chrome came up really nice with only a little pitting in it. The bike looks absolutely stunning now with only minor stuff done to it. Like a quick respray of the mudguards.
I couldn't believe how nice it turned out from the state it was in when we got it.
Don't walk away from it when you go to pick it up unless it's literally falling apart Smile

That's the plan, I don't care about cosmetics. As long as it's as mechanically sound as described it can look like a pile of rust Very Happy
Been talking to the guy today anyway he seems sound enough so I think it's a genuine bargain.
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ste wrote:
mysterious_rider wrote:
I listed my z50 on ebay a while back, it didnt reach reserve, but someone bid, ebay charged me 30 quid, and i decided to keep the bike. so im 30 notes out of pocked. Sad

It doesn't work like that.

If bidding didn't reach the reserve then eBay wouldn't have charged you a final value fee, you'd just have paid the £8 listing fee.


it certainly does work like that! thing is maybe they reckoned i sold it under my reserve price??

they just automatically took 30 from my paypal, i know this because they already a few weeks previously took 30 for selling another bike. So i know it was purely this bike that cost 30 to list.

There's no way of me getting the cash back as far as i can see.
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PostPosted: 18:10 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
let us know how it went!
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Saw it, bought it Smile
Has a few more issues than described but not enough to make it a non buy Smile
The guy has dropped it down the road which means it's got slightly bent bars, and a missing panel on the right side. The choke is...patchy. It also has problems idling but is fine running. Not sure if this is a choke issue or if the throttle cable needs replacing will check it out properly in daylight. It also needs new brake shoes and pads, as the brakes are not good right now.

Other than that it's nice and shouldn't cost too much to get up to spec, it runs nice when not idling Smile

Pics to follow tomorrow it's too dark now, but they'll be in show and tell tomorrow.
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
That lot will cost, if it was not as described in the ad I would have walked away.
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Won't cost much at all, certainly not enough to make the overall cost too high.
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Ariel Badger wrote:
That lot will cost, if it was not as described in the ad I would have walked away.

+1

Mr "sounds like a nice genuine bloke" sounds more like the usual seller who 'forgets' to mention things until you turn up, hoping you will be nieve enough to buy it anyway. Like the plick who tried to sell me a crashed r6 - "not a mark on it just a small dink in the exhaust" the listing said, as did his numerous emails - after travelling 200miles it turned out the whole nearside had a nasty case of road rash. Needless to say he STILL tried to sell me it at a knock down price.
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I would of walked away and told him he was taking the piss, not disclosing accident damage and poor running issues, without being funny, the seller has lied about the above so you have probably bought a shitter, must have seen you coming a mile away with "mug" written across your forehead.
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