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t101
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: why do bikes come without rear huggers Reply with quote

sorry if this is a stupid question... maybe im missing something!

why dont bikes come with rear huggers as standard? surely it would make sense and wouldnt cost a huge amount more?
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My bike came with a hugger Confused
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PostPosted: 15:45 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

from new? i know some do but i see loads of people riding round without them and just wondered why they arent standard on everything
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:49 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably too many people that buy bikes and don't ride them if it's wet and bikes often look better without them.

But it would make a lot more sense if they did come with every bike as standard.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Because they look pig ugly Laughing . Well some do. Although plenty of bikes do have them or something similar.

However for sports bikes I suspect it might be because it adds a tiny bit of weight that a large part of the target market rarely goes out in the rain to want one.

Be more inclined to want a switched live feed that things can easily be wired into without chopping wiring.

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PostPosted: 15:55 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cost, it's another part to stock.

Plus ease of manufacture / assembly, it's quicker to make without.

Plus it does reduce the weight, all important in the bike reviews that the power ranger brigade drool over.
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most new sports bikes do come with a small hugger of some sort though!

There not very big huggers, but a hugger none the less!

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/199779/images/2008kawasakizx10r.jpg

https://allmotorcyclepictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/2009-Honda-CBR1000RRb.jpg

https://adrenalinefix.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/big_bmw_s_1000_rr_11-jpg.jpeg

https://www.teranine.com/pics/gixxer/gsxr1000k8-1.JPG
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because the cheaper they can make 'em, the more profit they make, simple. Don't be under the illusion that the manufacturer gives a toss after the bike's left the showroom.
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PostPosted: 20:36 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because it's all part of the after sales sell-up. Clearly the less extra's they give you, the more you are going to buy. It's how manufacturers make an extra bit of cash on you. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clanger wrote:
Because it's all part of the after sales sell-up. Clearly the less extra's they give you, the more you are going to buy. It's how manufacturers make an extra bit of cash on you. Thumbs Up


This.

Also how else are power bronze going to be kept in business.
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PostPosted: 21:28 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just did a small sex-wee in my pants upon seeing that GSX-R.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is this hugger thing you speak of?

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PostPosted: 22:03 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like a rear mud guard buddy, curves around the rear tyre.



That gixxer looks teh sex.
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another stock bike with a hugger Razz

(I just like posting pictures of RSV4's, they are clearly the best looking sports bike!)

https://www.garagemotorcycles.com.au/images/bikes/aprilia/RSV4facLarge.jpg
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It boosts the sales of replacement shock absorbers.

Or possibly for the same reason they don't come fitted with socket head cap screws on the engine cases, braided steel brake lines, stainless header pipes, sintered brake pads and more than one coat of paint on the swingarm.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
It boosts the sales of replacement shock absorbers.

Or possibly for the same reason they don't come fitted with socket head cap screws on the engine cases, braided steel brake lines, stainless header pipes, sintered brake pads and more than one coat of paint on the swingarm.


Again, quite a few modern sports bikes come with stainless header pipes and braided lines Wink
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

SamJL wrote:

Again, quite a few modern sports bikes come with stainless header pipes and braided lines Wink


I bet they still have shitty, super low tensile, pozidrive screws all over the place though.
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's not a standard colour on that gixxer is it.

Really do like it.
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 27 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Budget, manufacturing costs, sales.

Everything they can do to cut cost is extra profit and if you do want one, that's some extra profit.
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's hardly an essential part of a motorcycle, is it?

And they look pretty gash.
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PostPosted: 02:24 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, might suit weekend warriors i suppose. i never really thought they made much difference to the look personally, i think some even look a bit better, as long as theyre close to the tyre, that ninja one up there looks pretty rubbish ^

and id much rather look slightly less cool than even attempt to clean that whole underneath section and my rear shock tbh. too many posers!
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PostPosted: 02:54 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

t101 wrote:
yeah, might suit weekend warriors i suppose. i never really thought they made much difference to the look personally, i think some even look a bit better, as long as theyre close to the tyre, that ninja one up there looks pretty rubbish ^

and id much rather look slightly less cool than even attempt to clean that whole underneath section and my rear shock tbh. too many posers!


Aren't most hungers added by posers for looks???

No hugger less unsprung weight...
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

t101 wrote:
and id much rather look slightly less cool than even attempt to clean that whole underneath section and my rear shock tbh. too many posers!


What's difficult about hosing the bike down after a mucky ride? 3 minutes tops.

You'll also find that lots of sports bikes have very tall swing arms (at the outside of the wheel) which block most of the shit from getting anywhere near the shock. I used the SP-1 in all weathers without a hugger and it never made it any muckier or more difficult to clean.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 28 Oct 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my 05 Ninja I found that without a hugger stones were being flung into the shock, creating lots of stone chips.
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