Laptop freezes under strain

[5v3d3b0]

Wow, HP really know how to make a shit laptop don't they!
First of all it's an HP Pavilion dv6.
A while back it started overheating a lot, so i put on some new thermal paste and sorted it right out. After a few months the problem came back, but now it's not so much overheating, it just freezes as soon as I strain it a lot.
Counterstrike will make it freeze in about 60-90 seconds, the only thing I can do is turn it off on the button. Even games on facebook or videos in full screen will freeze it but it takes longer time so I get away with it in short intervals.
I'm thinking there's something wrong in terms of graphics card??
I just spent over 2 hours taking the fucker apart and applying new thermal paste again, only to find out it didn't make ANY difference whatsoever, gutted
Any ideas are very welcome

[Syris the Indomitable]

These i7 and i5 in laptops set to idle with driver boost technology are proving to be nightmares. They Suck big time!

This is no consolation but I had one of those £1,400 VAIO F series with i7 and 240GT, I couldn't hear the TV for the fan. It ran way too hot so got rid of it, I hated it and went back to the Acer 6935G


Well after just doing a quick scan of the specs. HP Pavilion dv6.
You processor is really good, but like you said this what is causing the over heating, but this is no gaming laptop by a long way.

ATI Radeon HD 4570 V's NVIDIA Geforce G105M.
The ATI benchmarks about 60% better than that GeForce.
Your card is way down there https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?cpu=MOBILITY+RADEON+HD+4530+%2F+4570


If your able too, go for the discontinued Acer 6930G or better still 6935G with Nvidia 9600M-GT 1 GIG dedicated, 4 GIG DDR3. The 6935G has full HD as well as blue ray. The RAM is DDR3 as opposed to DDR2 in the 6930G. It will come with Vista as standard but if you install Windows 7 it's lightning fast.
It runs everything nice and cool.
Make sure it's a GT card because it's an Hybrid SLI and uses up to 2.3 GIG RAM in total.
You should be able to pick one of these up fairly cheap.
I got a reconned but good as new for £400

Other than that it's Mega expensive Dell XPS or Alienware.
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[5v3d3b0]

Wow, I wasn't aware my card was THAT bad. I would have thought that I could play CS anyway though, recommended specs are: 800 mhz processor, 128mb ram, 32mb+ video card, Windows 2000/XP, Mouse, Keyboard, Internet Connection
Something is definitely up, and I doubt anyone who I could sell it to second hand would be very happy with it :/ I can't even watch a fucking MOVIE!
And as a student it's not like I'm oozing money right now

[Syris the Indomitable]

This will be the problem:
Windows 2000/XP

CS is a driect X 7 game, you will need to download and install this X9C, don't bother with X7. https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyID=2da43d38-db71-4c1b-bc6a-9b6652cd92a3&displaylang=en&pf=true

If it still fails to run smoothy which it shouldn't do install 1.6 patch too.
https://www.fileratings.com/Review/Counter_Strike_1.6_-_Patch

I know this because I just played Black Hawk down and had to do the same thing.

Also finally do you maintain your hard drive for virtual memory, and leave enough free for de-frag. You will freeze otherwise and get page files.

Anyway's you need to be maintaining your hard drive like this ever two weeks or so.

Maintaining your computer
1. Left click on C drive> properties/run windows disc cleaner
2. Download Ccleaner from here: https://www.filehippo.com/
3. Install Ccleaner and run the cleaner top left, then run the registry cleaner below it on the left. you don’t need to backup the registry
4. Left click on C drive> properties>Tools>disc scanner or in the case of Vista it’s called something else, but it’s the top tab you click on> Prompt the scanner to scan upon next reboot and REBOOT COMPUTER)
#(Prepare to wait up to an hour)#
5. After Disk scan/Disk check has finished run windows Disc Cleaner again, Ccleaner again and registry cleaner again.
6. Then you must do a DEFRAGMENTAION of C drive which is START>ALL PROGRAMS>ACCESSORIES>TOOLS>DEFRAGMENTATION.
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[5v3d3b0]

Did everything on the list apart from the long reboot, and I defragged like a week ago. If anything it got worse, probably cause every attempt kills the computer a little more
It's ridiculous. Will I at least be able to repair it in a shop? I can NOT afford a new laptop

[el_oso]

are you sure it isn't overheating? use HW monitor and check the temps
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[5v3d3b0]

Hardware Monitors
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Hardware monitor ACPI
Temperature 0 58°C (136°F) [0xCF0] (THRM)

Hardware monitor AMD Turion X2 RM-74
Power 0 30.80 W (Processor)
Temperature 0 61°C (141°F) [0x1E8] (Core #0)
Temperature 1 62°C (143°F) [0x1EE] (Core #1)

Hardware monitor FUJITSU MJA2320BH G2
Temperature 2 30°C (85°F) [0x1E] (Air Flow)

Hardware monitor Battery 1
Voltage 0 12.51 Volts [0x30E0] (Current Voltage)
Capacity 0 47520 mWh [0xB9A0] (Designed Capacity)
Capacity 1 36288 mWh [0x8DC0] (Full Charge Capacity)
Capacity 2 36288 mWh [0x8DC0] (Current Capacity)
Level 0 24 pc [0x4C] (Wear Level)
Level 1 100 pc [0x64] (Charge Level)

This is while I'm just playing a bit of poker and a video from youtube is on. Does it look normal?

[Ingah]

[5v3d3b0]

Could you explain the "booting a CD" bit?
And I'm sure about the graphics card, it's and ATI Radeon something..
Would it be a good idea to format everything? To be honest there isn't really anything on the computer that I desperately need as long as I back up my music library.
How long would it take and how difficult would it be?

[Ingah]

A live CD is a CD that basically has an entire operating system on it. It runs "live" from the CD when you put it in and restart the machine.

Now more detailed: You download it, "burn" it to CD/DVD, then pop the CD/DVD in and restart and if your computer is set to look in the CD drive when it starts up (it's an option in the BIOS settings, hopefully yours is already set up as you don't want to fiddle with them), it will "see" the operating system and load it up.

A good example is Knoppix Linux https://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html (it doesn't work the same way as Windows, but it should be easy enough that you can do what you need to do with it).

An easier version to use (but a little more involved to create the disc in the first place) is probably Ultimate Boot CD for Windows, or Ultimate Windows Boot CD (i think they're 2 different things but both work on the same principle). They're basically the same thing as Knoppix, but running Windows instead via the live CD.

The good thing about the live CDs is that unless you start deleting things using them, they don't touch your hard drive at all, and at the same time are "clean" unused (i.e. fresh and unmessed) with installs, so are perfect for finding out if it's a software problem or hardware problem.

Formatting isn't particularly "hard", in the same way that taking the wheels off your bike or replacing the brake pads isn't "hard". I.e. You may need guiding through it the first time if you're unfamiliar - but it shouldn't be too much of a stretch using a guide and some common sense!
(Note: Make sure you have the required parts first - in this case a clean reinstall CD, and the product key/code - the code especially can be very important as Microsoft's anti-piracy will really mess up your day if you format and fail to take down the code first)
And don't forget to backup what you want to keep first, because you'll lose everything.

The idea of the live CD is that you can find out whether or not formatting will help without having to do it first. Because if it still plays up on the live CD, the probability is that formatting won't do diddly-squat for you.
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[5v3d3b0]

I have a legit copy of windows vista so that shouldn't be a problem if I do format. I'll try out the live CD thing when I have a bit of time to look into it completely.
But if I load up the operating system on the DVD, there won't be anything on there right? Will I be able to surf the internet from that disc so I can actually try and strain the cpu? (I know just the game on fb)

[Ingah]

[Syris the Indomitable]

Press ctrl+alt+del keys at the same time>device manager>procsses and see if your processor it running at more than 2 to 5%, 10% as long as you have no applications open. If it' higher than this then it's a software, virus or windows driver issue, also if processor % is racing like mad only when playing the game you need an updated graphics driver. I have had the same issues with graphics drivers.

fresh install of windows or repaire the O/S

If you have the original CD of your operating system you can go into BIOS. Upon boot up keep pressing , F8 , F10or F11.
Change boot from Hard drive to CD>F10 to save changes then Insert the CD.
You will then need to install the hard drive controller driver as well as the Intel chip-set driver/Mother board drivers. Then you will need to install all the peripheral drivers. I.E Sound card and graphics card.

https://neosmart.net/blog/2008/windows-vista-recovery-disc-download/
Vista recovery.

https://neosmart.net/blog/2009/windows-7-system-repair-discs/
Windows 7 recovery

If you still have the hologram on the back of the laptop you still have the licence so it shouldn't cost you much for a fresh install at your local computer repair shop, they will install all the drivers too.

Is yours the Dv6-2190 or 1240 or something else?
Need to know so we can look at getting some new drivers?
Exact graphics card too!

If all else fails, don't worry about Linux or Ubuntu, they are very good.
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[el_oso]

personallly i would ditch vista.
does also seem like it is running a little hot. not too familair with AMD processors, i know they usually run a little hotter than intel but i don't think they should be that hot. using my laptop lightly i get around 40-50. when i really push it hard i get high 60s/70s.
run a live linux CD and make the computer work, if it still freezes they i would say it is either a RAM issue or a gfx card issue.
kind of rules out a failing hard drive
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