Abit Of A Stupid Question But ...

[woodie2k8]

im not new to biking but im new to gears, ive been riding offroad motorbikes since i was 5 , but i passed my CBT last year and got a speedfight 50cc , now im 17 i would like something bigger , and the bike i would like has gears Honda CBF 125 ,
i understand the concept of gears but just a few questions ..

= i heard that when you stop u have to hold the clutch in to stop it going forward etc.. is this true , carnt i just hold in the brake ?
= when pulling up behind a car or at traffic lights do i have to put it in neutral or can i leave this in 1st gear ?
= how hard is it to find Neutral gear as it is in between 1st and 2nd gear

i know i seem like a little kid as i dont know much about gears but im just really curious about learning the gears , because i love biking and chose to get a 125cc over a car

[Itchy]

= i heard that when you stop u have to hold the clutch in to stop it going forward etc.. is this true , carnt i just hold in the brake ?

Nope but put it in neutral but 1st gear clutch in is good for quickly getting away. You don't have to hold it all the way in you can hold it just below the bite whereby the bike starts to move forward. You see the engine is connnected to the wheels the engine turn the wheels turn. When the wheels stop turning you need to disconnect the wheels from the engine. Else the bike moves forward or you stop the engine either or.

When setting off you give it some gas, then let the clutch out slowly reconnecting the engine with the gearbox, too fast and not enough gas and the resistance stalls the engine. Too slow and you accelerate slowly. You'll soon learn the bite zone by muscle memory and can feel it as the engine slows down as you release the clutch.


= when pulling up behind a car or at traffic lights do i have to put it in neutral or can i leave this in 1st gear ?

Your choice, 1st gear clutch in is good for quick getaways. neutral is good for traffic light sequences that are long or for bikes with heavy clutches.

= how hard is it to find Neutral gear as it is in between 1st and 2nd gear Confused

Depends on the bike and the condition of the bike, my CBR its easy to find ditto on the NTV and Africa twin. Even though the light did not work. However on my XT600E it was hard to find, due to the gear box coming off a tractor, same with the TDm800 I tried once. Which is why people hold the clutch in and go into first.
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[EUMP]

1) Clutch in when you stop, because otherwise the engine will stall, pull it all the way in and have the brake on

2) Can leave it in neutral or first gear, if in first leave the clutch pulled in

3) At first it can be a tricky bugger and i've found the finding of neutral different on other bikes to my own, but soon you'll know it off by heart
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[woodie2k8]

ok thanks, my brother has a 120cc pitbike , im thinking about learning the gears on this, but this pitbike is powerfull and tends to pop up in most gears, any tips of practising

[gazz hough]

neutral is half a click in between 1st and 2nd, i've just started riding a geared bike, and if anything, neutral is dead easy to find.

sometimes when changing up from 1st to 2nd i end up putting it in neutral and start revving the tits off it before realising.

as for the clutch, you do need to hold it in when your stopped or you can put it into neutral, whichever you prefer.
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[woodie2k8]

[gazz hough]

[nokiakeys]

Basically when a gear is selected the bike has to be moving or the clutch has to pulled in / at biting point.

When you start learning, you'll get it quick as the bike will just stall meaning it had no power to turn the gears.

I've currently got a CBF 125 and the gears are easy... but I have missed 2nd sometimes by not moving my foot all the way up
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[woodie2k8]

[gazz hough]

[woodie2k8]

When coming to a stop and im in 2nd and dont have time to go to 1st then neutral , say im stopped behind a car can i hold clutch in , click down 2 so im in 1st , and then half click up to neutral, ( changing from 2nd - 1st - neutral ) all in 1 clucth , or do i have to release the clutch after each change

[N cee thirty]

jesus your thinking about it too much,just go out and ride on a private road or something
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[gazz hough]

[woodie2k8]

[N cee thirty]

just get used to how the clutch works and then try going in second and then back to first again

then you'll have the confidence to move up more
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[nokiakeys]

try youtubing some videos, I seen a few up there... but there nothing like doing the real thing, just take your time and go slow
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[CptBlack]

Perhaps you should do another CBT or get a couple of hours lesson on a 125. This should sort out all of these questions, give you some experience and help prove to your Dad that you're serious about riding properly and safely.

[Bloke]

Find a school that has a rolling road facility. That way you can learn clutch control without dumping yourself on your arse.

If you're in gear and coming to a stop you need to pull your clutch in as well as your brake.

finding neutral is easy enough, normally involves a green light coming on the dash.

Changing gears in a big chunk (say your stopped behind car in 3rd) sometimes requires you to do the following

Clutch in
Change to 2nd
Clutch out to biting point
Clutch in
Change to first.

My instructor taught me to go through gears doing "clutch in, clutch out" and i've never had an issue yet about it dropping into a gear
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[woodie2k8]

Thanks for all the help , i have been getting some practice on my brothers 120cc pitbike , i have managed to ride that around a field changing the gears and i havnt stalled it , my town i live in is fairly quiet and one of my friends has just bought a 125 aswell , he did not know how to do gears before either and can now change confidently so i will ask him for some help and advice aswell