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tk338
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PostPosted: 02:17 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Clipped a mirror Reply with quote

Clipped a mirror today overtaking a car on a long straight. I caught the mirror only with my bar ends, and my leg brushed against it, misjudgment.

However I thought nothing of it untill I looked in my mirror and saw the car, well the car filled my mirror lol, flashing his lights etc, but not really wanting to get into a confrontation I pulled away, he looked angry :/

Absolutely nothing done to my bike, I'm now seriously regretting not stopping, although I don't think I would have done going back in time, looked furious... Would it now be best If I reported this myself or wait and see if anything comes through? He would have had plenty of time to get my plate.
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PostPosted: 02:21 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

He'll probably check his car for damage and if there isn't any he probably won't bother doing anything.

Was there cross winds or something?
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PostPosted: 02:30 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it made a slight noise, but I've looked at the bike and it must have been the smallest of contacts...

Actually had a pillion at the time, fairly new to it all, just on our way out and then that...

Thing is I'm still within my 2 years, only just started them actually got my license around 2 months ago, so the points for failure to stop/report would cripple me
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PostPosted: 02:40 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

tk338 wrote:
Thing is I'm still within my 2 years, only just started them actually got my license around 2 months ago, so the points for failure to stop/report would cripple me


Don't worry about it. If you're hitting cars when overtaking, you won't make 2 years.
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PostPosted: 07:29 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Technically you have had an accident and are required to stop / report it to the police as soon as practicable within 24 hrs.

Bearing in mind how easily modern cars break and how expensive mirrors can be (£350 for my C4) I would just report it at the nearest police station and see what happens. The chances are he has your index unless you pulled away like a traffic light tart.

On the other hand you could always stay stum and see what happens and risk the consequences Twisted Evil

If it was my driving licence I wouldn't
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PostPosted: 07:37 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it goes that far then your get out clause at police station / court will be that you knew that you had hit the mirror but as you attempted to find somewhere safe to pull over you saw a raving madmad in the car behind flashing his lights, tailgating you. waving his fists and shouting obsenities.

You wanted to stop but feared for your own safety because of the way he was behaving being especially vunerable on a bike.

Then of course you reported it to the police as soon as possible, your honour Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:28 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Livefast123 wrote:
If it goes that far then your get out clause at police station / court will be that you knew that you had hit the mirror but as you attempted to find somewhere safe to pull over you saw a raving madmad in the car behind flashing his lights, tailgating you. waving his fists and shouting obsenities.

You wanted to stop but feared for your own safety because of the way he was behaving being especially vunerable on a bike.

Then of course you reported it to the police as soon as possible, your honour Thumbs Up


100% agree - Really lay it on that you thought you were in danger.
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in the car parked up at the side of the road the other day when another car drove past clipping my mirror with his. No damage done, but the sound it made I thought a small nuclear explosion had gone off.
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PostPosted: 08:46 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

This......... Thumbs Up

Livefast123 wrote:
If it goes that far then your get out clause at police station / court will be that you knew that you had hit the mirror but as you attempted to find somewhere safe to pull over you saw a raving madmad in the car behind flashing his lights, tailgating you. waving his fists and shouting obsenities.

You wanted to stop but feared for your own safety because of the way he was behaving being especially vunerable on a bike.

Then of course you reported it to the police as soon as possible, your honour Thumbs Up



.............and then seriously this..........Shocked

bazza wrote:
Don't worry about it. If you're hitting cars when overtaking, you won't make 2 years.


You don't need to be told scare stories, but clipping a car wing mirror was the contributory factor to a fatal on the road near me.

Take it as a lesson learned and ride more carefully, even more so with a pillion! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 09:05 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys... To be honest aswell, the pillion on the back was a big factor in me not stopping too, she was younger than me, and a confrontational situation isn't good at the best of times, and its not something I wanted to get her involved in...

The reason why I swerved too, was in part to a van coming in the opposite direction, now I've played this situation over and over in my head, and I'd be absolutely ready to say I thought the overtake was fine when I committed to it, but then if he reported it he could well play the card of dangerous driving. The van came a little closer than expected and out of reflexes more than anything, possibly he created a bit of a draft, I clipped the mirror
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PostPosted: 09:14 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have plenty of knowledge in this area, don't mention the van.......especially as you were then overtaking into oncoming traffic. Thumbs Down

You were filtering alongside the car when your inexperienced pillion moved suddenly causing the bike to change direction and you clipped the mirror of the car despite your best efforts Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Smile ok, I guess the pillion moved would be good to say too although I don't want to get her into trouble! To be honest I'd like her as least involved as possible... For her sake!

If I report it, and the other driver doesn't, seeing as I don't have his reg will anything further happen?
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

tk338 wrote:
Thanks Smile ok, I guess the pillion moved would be good to say too although I don't want to get her into trouble! To be honest I'd like her as least involved as possible... For her sake!

If I report it, and the other driver doesn't, seeing as I don't have his reg will anything further happen?


Just ignore it, chances are if his mirror was still attached and functioning, he may not give a toss, just pissed that you hit it and buggered off! I clipped a mirror back when I was on my first bike, shit me up.. Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:


Just ignore it, chances are if his mirror was still attached and functioning, he may not give a toss, just pissed that you hit it and buggered off! I clipped a mirror back when I was on my first bike, shit me up.. Laughing


Problem is, is he definately got my plate, and the consequences for not stopping are a bit out of proportion for something so small Plus if it then got reported it could well go to court etc... A lot of hassle!
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PostPosted: 09:30 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we have all done it buddy don't worry, I hit a mirror whilst filtering through the traffc lights no damage done the guy was just angry and i apologised through form of open hand gesture. Mr. Green Karma Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with the "how the fuck did you get that close" school on this one.

On a long straight?

I could understand it if you were whitelining a bit fast in heavy traffic, but on a long straight... Rolling Eyes

You need to reconsider HOW you're riding, matey.
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PostPosted: 09:36 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

jackw72 wrote:
I think we have all done it buddy don't worry, I hit a mirror whilst filtering through the traffc lights no damage done the guy was just angry and i apologised through form of open hand gesture. Mr. Green Karma Thumbs Up


Happens all the time to me, in town Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honesty is a great thing and should be applauded but there are times when ignorance is the answer. SHOULD you get a knock a the door then the answer would be:

"Yes I did overtake a car on that road but I wasn't aware that I had clipped it, tell the owner to give me a call and I'll sort out any damage"

A range rover drove into my wifes car while it was parked. Luckily someone saw it and passed on the reg. I phoned up the police who contacted the owner. They then phoned me back to say that he wasn't aware of the accident and would I mind giving him a call because they (the Police) don't want to get involved unless they need to.

Stop worrying, your licence is safe, for now. Can I suggest that you get some advanced training before your misjudgement results in a real accident?
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got no comment regarding reporting it to the police or whatever but seriously take it easy! You say it brushed your leg, so your bike must have been within a foot of the car. When filtering this is an acceptable gap, but when overtaking it definitely isn't!

Wouldn't necessarily say get more training, but do take it easy for a while, 2 months isn't much experience at all!
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Livefast123 wrote:
If it goes that far then your get out clause at police station / court will be that you knew that you had hit the mirror but as you attempted to find somewhere safe to pull over you saw a raving madmad in the car behind flashing his lights, tailgating you. waving his fists and shouting obsenities.

You wanted to stop but feared for your own safety because of the way he was behaving being especially vunerable on a bike.

Then of course you reported it to the police as soon as possible, your honour Thumbs Up


Agreeing with the rest, this!

Im also with the pillion bit as an excuse.

But to be honest, if the driver was getting angry and waving fists, I would say he is much less likely to ring the po po.

Hope you make your mind up and get it right Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:22 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wouldn't bother myself.

If the plod come calling, which I would be amazed considering they can't be bothered for burglers etc. just say you have no knowledge of clipping any mirrors.

Don't go and give yourself up as if you've just committed murder.
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PostPosted: 10:38 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can vouch for the very loud sound it makes,

twice in town (I think twice) where I have done some close filtering on the SV I've clipped mirrors.

First time shat me up and just sped away as quickly as poss.

The second time, I pulled in a few cars ahead and couldn't really see the car (It was a BMW!), then two police motorcycles appeared... Shocked thankfully they just filtered passed... so I followed them.

Both times I didn't hear a thing, but the bang is very loud. Also both times they didn't even move my mirror, no visible damage etc.
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bent a white vans mirrow with my shoulder to a point it was facing forward and I just rode off.

I felt guilty later on.

Then about a week ago I hit another mirror and this time I decided to stop. The driver did a thumbs up and gestured to ride off.

I like being good Minh Smile
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Livefast123 wrote:
Technically you have had an accident and are required to stop / report it to the police as soon as practicable within 24 hrs.

Bearing in mind how easily modern cars break and how expensive mirrors can be (£350 for my C4) I would just report it at the nearest police station and see what happens. The chances are he has your index unless you pulled away like a traffic light tart.

On the other hand you could always stay stum and see what happens and risk the consequences Twisted Evil

If it was my driving licence I wouldn't


Technically/Legally you are not required to report it. It is up to the third party to pursue you and prove to a court that you caused damages.

But if someone is injured you are legally required to STOP.
You must report the accident to police.

I don't think you need to report to your insurer though but if you tell the police then not wise to not tell your insurers.

The failing to report an accident deal is a wonderful loophole that has plagued insurance claims for years. Crying or Very sad

Hitting a mirror?

You could, if you are morally concerned, report the incident to your insurer and police. This would help the third party's case in any claim against you for damages.
I think most folk would say fcuk it and hammer on though.

If it's a big posh Merc or a Roller then I would say Fcuk it and hammer on. (Hope to Christ they didn't have time to read my registration. Shifty )
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 07 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm generally a very very careful rider, but although in black and white it sounds bad, and I'm pretty sure to some people it sounds a very bad maneuver, but it is something at the time I did judge, anticipated the whole situation (minus the knock and) the van on the other side of the road getting THAT close. That said I am looking out at forking out for advanced training, and will triple check each overtake from now Smile

On the reporting side, I decided to go in, and report it, said I'd be happy to pay for any damages, and I didn't stop because I panicked and felt intimidated by his response, ie coming up behind me flashing his lights etc... If he reports it I'll get a phone call (Which I would have done anyway, just hopefully this time it'll be a lot more friendly than it could have been), if he doesn't I'll hear nothing more of it Smile. They were most friendly and helpful, said because I had given a reason for not stopping, and had come in and reported it within my 24 hours, no more should be said about that bit of it.

I genuinely was just passing him because he was traveling at below the speed limit and holding me up, once I'd passed him I resumed the speed limit... And then he sped up!? Hate it when people do that!
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