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Dan87
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: What 600 Reply with quote

Hi guys

I'm new here, but have been lurking round for a while.

Bit of background on me 23 years old passed my DAS two years ago and had to sell my aprilia rs125 to get married six months down the line and have been bikeless since.

I've finally decided to get back on the road and thought about getting a bike now as prices are fairly low compared to summer. I've only ridden a 125 other than for my DAS but figured I'd get a six as I'll only get bored six months down the line.

I'm fairly short only 5'8-9" so can't do trailies really and have been looking at bandits, hornets, sv and fazers. Budget of 1000-1500. My no claims lapsed so can't afford anything sporty Sad. Was interested in hornets as they're cheap but wondered what you guys thought. Also is 25k alot on them? Like the bandits but heard the finish on them is to be desired specially as most of them have been subjected to the lovely salt on our roads.

I have a car so will be used for the odd commute and leisure ride. And in all honesty won't be used the majority of the time (unless I really get the bug bad again!!)

I'm not mechanically minded but don't mind fetling a little.

Many thanks in advance

Dan!
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sit up 600's are all of a muchness really with very little difference in performance and riding position. They all have the same benifits of cheap insurance and parts and their droppability factor makes them a great first big bike. They dont bleed as much when they fall over.

Depending on what you want to use the bike for I'd suggest heading down to your local dealers and have a seat on as many as you can to get the feel. If your using the thing for fun then a naked one would be great fun. If your using it for long hauls and commuting I'd go for the Fazer as its half faired and offers some wind resistance.

As for the milage. Providing the bike is looked after and serviced regularly enough then theres no harm in high milage from the Jap bikes. They are built to last. With that kind of milage you might want to check when the last major service was done and when the chain and sprockets were last replaced.
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Dan87
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
As for the milage. Providing the bike is looked after and serviced regularly enough then theres no harm in high milage from the Jap bikes. They are built to last. With that kind of milage you might want to check when the last major service was done and when the chain and sprockets were last replaced.


Is there a mileage to look below eg 25k,30k?
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Providing the bikes been serviced regularly milage is pretty irellevent. The GSXR I rode around on was 19 years old and had done 36K miles but because the guy that owned it was a mechanic and had the engine stripped and fully rebuilt the thing was as sweet as a nut.

Last week I bought myself a VTR and a mate of mine who works on twins said the engine sounded one of the best he's heard. Its done 27K miles but has a service history showing what works been done.
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sitting on them is most important if you're doing a long run, as is a half-fairing. Make sure you're happy with the riding position. As I always say in these cases, I didn't like the Bandit as I found the pegs were too high. You might find them perfect.

For your budget I'd worry about the condition more than the mileage. If it's been looked after well, that's the key thing.
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bandit<SV<Fazer<Hornet IMO

Low mileage is obviously a plus but I would rather have service history.
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Dan87
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Bandit<SV<Fazer<Hornet IMO

Low mileage is obviously a plus but I would rather have service history.


Am I reading right the hornets top of your list? I'll go try a few if em out and then sus one out with a decent history or one I can see had been looked after.


Woooh the excitement of going back on two wheels again!!
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bandit's are big and they are heavy Thumbs Up

Only real men and butch lesbians can ride them Wink
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paxovasa wrote:
Bandit's are big and they are heavy Thumbs Up

Only real men and butch lesbians can ride them Wink


yup. I'd agree with that.

I've seen Paxo calls himself a real man but we know the truth. He's a big butch lesbian!
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

You said you wouldn't tell anyone Tut Tut
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

oops! Gagged

You said you'd untie me afterwards tho!
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess we both lied Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys anyone reading this feel free to come rescue me. I'm currenty typing this with my tongue in paxo's basement. dont ask how I have managed to rig up internet access. lets just say some of paxo's experiments with circit boards and fibre optic tubing are eye watering!
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I'm fairly short only 5'8-9" so can't do trailies really and have been looking at bandits, hornets, sv and fazers. Budget of 1000-1500"

i wouldnt automatically disregard trailie/sm types.
im 5ft 9 & manage perfectly well on my R30. the sitting upright seating position makes a nice change & its cheap to insure but is a lot of fun to ride.
cheers,
GAZ
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Dan87
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

stirlinggaz wrote:
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i wouldnt automatically disregard trailie/sm types.
im 5ft 9 & manage perfectly well on my R30. the sitting upright seating position makes a nice change & its cheap to insure but is a lot of fun to ride.
cheers,
GAZ


Pardon my ignorance but what's a R30 mate?
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
Bandit<SV<Fazer<Hornet IMO

Low mileage is obviously a plus but I would rather have service history.


From memory, the Hornet was slightly out of my price range, never really fancied the Fazer, the SV that I sat on felt a tiny but more stretched than I was expecting, so I eventually settled on a naked Bandit.
(Got FSH, only 2 owners, and I was able to contact the previous owner to confirm the details etc)
I've been riding the Bandit daily for the past year, and enjoy 99% of my riding. The only negative I found with daily riding is down to the weather and nothing negative about the bike.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 15 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

[/quote]Pardon my ignorance but what's a R30 mate?[/quote]

this https://www.superbike.co.uk/imageBank/c/ccm_r30_02.jpg

ccm 604,rotax 600cc single cylinder, fitted with 17 inch wheels & road tyres.
when new, you had the option of getting 2 sets of wheels, so you could use it off road. (2 bikes in 1 Smile )
its light,pretty reliable,fast enough for motorway use (though obviously not as fast as a sports bike) simple to maintain & to "tune". standard i think its around 50bhp but mines was dyno'd at 65bhp with only a different exhaust,air filter & a bit of "fettling".
was never a bike i had thought of buying tbh, bit i kinda "inherited" it & now find it a hoot to ride. (i actually prefer riding it to any of my other bikes- mostly the "sportsbike" type)
being left handed i love the fact it kick starts on the left. (& its British!!!)
cheers,
GAZ
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