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Whosthedaddy
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Minimum bhp? Reply with quote

Ok, what would you think is the minimum bhp needed for a commute?
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

3?
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PostPosted: 09:53 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends what colour powerband you have Thumbs Up

Think around 5 with a pink one, around 30 with a brown one

Seriously though I use a 28 Bhp 250 for my commute on dual carriageway and A roads and it just laps it up and comes back for more as well as doing 88 MPG. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends where are you riding? If in town (30's) not a lot, 8? If you are commuting on motorways a bit more but not tons, if you are on fast A roads you might want a bit more again for overtakes?
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 10:05 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Re: Minimum bhp? Reply with quote

150rwhp in a light sporty chassis for the most comfortable experience. (What I found best for 30s/40s.)

A push bike if you don't care about ease of getting from A to B quickly Smile.


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PostPosted: 10:09 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

33bhp, its enough for tooting around and enough power to keep up with motorway speeds.
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

20bhp is a nice figure - MZ250.
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to commute 80 miles a day on the Enfield. With the mods I think it had a whopping 20bhp.
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you "need" more than 20-25hp, you're not commuting, you're having a ride out.
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

10 for town, 30 for motorways. Simples Cool
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you "need" more than 12hp you're not commuting, you're having a ride out. Could also be just as 'sensible' a statement Wink.

For me, commuting is about getting from A to B as quickly and as easily as possible - more power and lighter weight means it's not a 'ride out' 100% concentration on riding the bike to it's full abilities thing.
With a broad range of high power I can easily manoeuvre the bike to go where I want to be with minimum effort.
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My TDM has 90 give or take. I wouldn't want any less. Besides It's not how much power, it's the character of the power. My S4 has more power than the TDM but it is mostly in the top end the TDM has Lots of power from 2k RPM which is better for commuting. I wouldn't want to commute on a low powered bike that I have to rag the shit out of to get anywhere. I reckon 90% of my Journey i use under 40bhp but it is low in the revs just pootling along as opposed to nearlly at the redline like a 500 twin would be.
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My MZ has about 16-20 or so and that is fine for motorway work. Anything less and you'll be struggling to keep up.
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on what type of commuting, if B roads and town/city riding, then you need less bhp than motorway and A road commuting.
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:
I reckon 90% of my Journey i use under 40bhp but it is low in the revs just pootling along as opposed to nearlly at the redline like a 500 twin would be.


Your TDM is low in the revs pootling at the ton? Cool, I've got to get one.
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, the ball park figures do go hand in hand with what I was thinking of...17 and upwards depending on money.

G wrote:
If you "need" more than 12hp you're not commuting, you're having a ride out. Could also be just as 'sensible' a statement Wink.

For me, commuting is about getting from A to B as quickly and as easily as possible - more power and lighter weight means it's not a 'ride out' 100% concentration on riding the bike to it's full abilities thing.
With a broad range of high power I can easily manoeuvre the bike to go where I want to be with minimum effort.


Kind of my thinking.

I loved the 600 but wish I'd had the 1000 for the extra grunt when needed rather than just a 'make it go faster' right hand control. I didn't need to filter at 95 but it made a boring commute a little less so and quicker to boot.

Not looking forward to the idea of a slower commute for the same journey but its something I'm trying to decide whether feasible or not.

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Your TDM is low in the revs pootling at the ton? Cool, I've got to get one


Thats the benefit of a twin, only red lines at 8k. Then again, the GSXR would be 7-8k and doing a ton+.
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:

Thats the benefit of a twin, only red lines at 8k. Then again, the GSXR would be 7-8k and doing a ton+.


You do realise that Shaggy rides a CB500, right?
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
My MZ has about 16-20 or so and that is fine for motorway work. Anything less and you'll be struggling to keep up.

Are you sure? I thought the 301 was quoted at 25ish?
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not the power you MIGHT have, its the power you can use.
Mito may have 28bhp, but stacked in a 2000rom powerband, its not very 'available'.
100bhp R6, on the other hand probably had 28bhp 'available' from anything over 2000rpm, despite its revvy motor.
MZ 250 might only have 20bhp, but it'll have most of it available right accross the rev-range.
Power USED is directly proportional to speed, so how fast do you want to commute?
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Depends where I am commuting. Currently it tends to entail about 85 miles of motorway each way (and about 10 miles of non motorway). I want something to cruise at a decent speed with plenty in reserve in top without having to stir the gearbox. The ZZR600 I use sometimes has barely enough for this (but plenty more if I do stir the gearbox, but which is useless as I really do not want to bother). It probably has about 50hp at cruising speed in top, with about half of that being used to maintain cruising speed and the other half available.

Commuting round town then less power would be fine, but again a power delivery biased to low down power would be wanted.

If commuting 30~60 mins on back roads then something which is more fun to ride would be preferable. And a 125 2 stroke would be quite fun and practical.

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PostPosted: 13:03 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
power 'n' stuff

Remember gearing plays a decent role too.
Your mito is likely to be geared a lot lower, so relatively makes more 'use' of the power it has, especially around town.
And an R6 can actually be fairly jerky at low speeds.

Though, certainly the MITO requires more effort for the same amount of work - I like this, but not for commuting where I want the bike to do as much as possible for me, so I can make those tight gaps easily, etc.

Not sure an MZ has 20hp through most of the rev range either Confused.
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
It's not the power you MIGHT have, its the power you can use.


Ragging the nuts off for most of the journey is something I'm not too keen on.
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PostPosted: 18:32 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't want to commute on anything that couldn't do just over the speed limit I'd be riding in.
My commute is mainly 30-40mph zones and my Vespa just about manages an indicated 60 mph so this is fine for me.
I just searched to find out how many BHP it has and I'm a little disappointed to find out its only 7.6bhp Razz

I'd probably want about 20hp for motorway riding.
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 16 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm happy enough with what the GPZ has to offer, but then again i was happy enough with what the CG had to offer.

I'm actually thinking i preferred the CG, it was a lot more fun.

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Though i would have been perfectly happy with a 20bhp bike to take me to college and back. Good fuel economy too Thumbs Up

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