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Leon1987
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Gsxr 600 SRAD Splutter Reply with quote

Hi I got a gsxr 600 SRAD, I've been having some problems with it recently, my bike splutters when I slow down, basically it runs great down the A roads but as soon as I slow down for a roundabout for example and pull away it splutters so badly, I have to keep clutching it and giving it revs to stop it from dying! Someone said it could be carbs but I'm confused as it only does it in the winter months!
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not carb icing is it? I've never had it so wouldn't know how to stop it. Have you also checked you don't have any blocked breather hoses which could be choking the supply of fuel.
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine does this.

Have you got an aftermarket can on it? If so this will be a contributing factor.

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PostPosted: 15:31 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

My TDM had similar symptoms turned out to be The coils. I'd say carb icing is more likely though.
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

come again. Its november. Carb icing wont be the problem in the uk.
Probably need your carbs balancing, or plugs changing
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

All SRAD's and G/J series ninjas that I've ridden have suffered from this issue in the winter.

My SRAD did on Monday evening.

On the MCN Ninjas forum, I believe they recommend some sort of fuel additive to get rid of it.


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PostPosted: 15:39 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't be so sure, mine suffered badly from carb icing this time last year.
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PostPosted: 16:14 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's really done me in because it runs so well! I wilm get the carbs checked also what's this fuel additive then! Maybe worth trying that too :s
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does have an aftermarket can on it too and it's been cut down too! Could this be a problem?
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PostPosted: 16:29 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes. It will be a considerable factor.

Unless you get it jetted to suit there isn't much you can do about it. And even when jetted it will still bog down.

You do get used to it.
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

But surely if that's the case it would bog down all year round right? Or am I kidding myself lol
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

instigator wrote:
All SRAD's and G/J series ninjas that I've ridden have suffered from this issue in the winter.

My SRAD did on Monday evening.

On the MCN Ninjas forum, I believe they recommend some sort of fuel additive to get rid of it.


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PostPosted: 21:57 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leon1987 wrote:
what's this fuel additive then! Maybe worth trying that too :s


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PostPosted: 23:13 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the solution to prevent carb icing guys? When I got home from work today there was steam coming from up the front! Any ideas lol!
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leon1987 wrote:
What is the solution to prevent carb icing guys? When I got home from work today there was steam coming from up the front! Any ideas lol!


From the front...after a ride?
Check for oil hitting the downpipes/leak in radiator Neutral doesnt sound good, but thats whats happened when ive had steam up the front.
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 18 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I'm guessing I could see this without having to take all the farings off right? Or wrong???? It's just strange how it's only just started playing up and it was raining today :s maybe it could have been something to do with that or should I stop kidding myself?
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PostPosted: 00:27 - 19 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The steam is probably from the rain then. Hot engine + rainwater = steam.

As for the stuttering problem, try using some silkolene pro fst and see if it solves the problem. If it doesn't, give the HT leads a good spray with WD40 and see if that makes a difference.

Carb icing doesn't need freezing ambient temperatures, and should go away when the temperature is really low - does in aircraft, at least. It is caused by the temperature drop in the carb venturi, which is a factor of a venturi causing a pressure drop. The temperature drop lowers the ambient temperature of the air by 10-20 celcius, which can freeze the moisture in the air and give you ice in the carburettor. In very cold temperatures the ice doesn't get to build up and gets pulled right through. The worst conditions should be around 5 celcius with high humidity, like it was today around here.
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 19 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davie_G71 wrote:
Don't be so sure, mine suffered badly from carb icing this time last year.


Just curious as to how you know it was definitely carb icing?
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PostPosted: 10:32 - 19 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it start ok, and hold a decent idle after starting?
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PostPosted: 15:07 - 19 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh it's only after doing a steady 70 80 it starts to bog out starts just fine
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 19 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leon1987 wrote:
Yeh it's only after doing a steady 70 80 it starts to bog out starts just fine

That's classic carb icing, the ice blocks the idle cirtcuit while you're blatting along at a decent speed on the mains, when you close the throttle and go onto the idle jet it misfires or dies in bad cases. An old GS I had was chronic used to die and wouldn't start for up to 20-30 minutes sometimes until the ice melted then just start and run as if nothing had happened....until the next time. It's fairly common on Srads.
You don't get it in proper freezing weather as moisture drops out of the air so there is no water to freeze.
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 19 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

That makes sense cheers mate my bike done that last year died and wouldn't start I called the aa and they didn't know what was wrong then suddenly it started again! Is there any solutions to stop this or even make it less frequent?
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PostPosted: 18:50 - 22 Nov 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just an FYI for anyone having a problem with carb icing;

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