Bike vis bullets

[VTRkemshell10...]

has anybody tried/got these?

and are they any good??

https://www.bikevis.com/
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[DrDonnyBrago]

[Pedd]

£20 for a couple of l.e.d's screw that
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[Rogerborg]

I run extra spots with LED H3 bulbs. Probably brighter than these little things, but still not as bright as the headlight. If you're bothered about visibility, you'll have that on anyway.

The use I can see for them is sticking them on the mirrors to give you lights as high and wide as possible.

£20 is a lot for a couple of LEDs, but it's cheaper than any accident you could have, so it's really your call.

[iooi]

If other drivers can't see or hear a police bike or such running blue's & 2's what diffrence do you think a couple of led's make....
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[Ol]

Chap i know had some on his Pan - looked really good to be honest, not sure they'd make that much difference to someone pulling out on you mind.
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[DrDonnyBrago]

[G]

Yea - I suspect this is what helps with my LED strips. Because they are a more diffuse light in a line, it's something that people will do a double take - see people staring as you go past etc.

Oh and I've had plent of accidents that cost less than £20, but that's another matter.

[Teflon-Mike]

I'm unfortunately of the jaded opinion that conspicuity is a lost cause. So much is competing for our attension along the road-side these days, from golden arches to chav's under-neons, everything is just a jumble of lights and noise, lighting yourself up like a christmas tree seems to do very little but add more competition for attension to confuse simple minded myopic SMIDSY's even further.

I've been inclined by the 'stealth' argumet, the reverse psycology of going black, for a while. Dont make yoursleff obviouse, blend in, dont give them any reason to 'notice' you and do something daft in reaction, and just presume every-one will!

But I was being given a lift back from a resturant the other day, in teh dark, in the fog, so I wasn't concentrating on driving, and could actually think about other stuff.

We were following a bike, and the thought which struck me was that all in black, on semi-lit and lit streets, winding through maze of junctions of city snarl, he was ACTUALLY more conspiciouse, NOT lit up.

The black silhuette, was an obviouse person shape, and actually mure easily recognised as a bike.

Everything else, was a a blur of bright lights.

Red and white and orange points, of brightness, the glare actually obscuring teh shape of whatever they were attached to. Was it a bus, a car, a truck? What? actually took more attension to work out whether the four red lamps infront of the bike were a car pulling a trailer, or a 4x4 with two sets of tail-lights, or something else, all together.......

So...... I dont know, but made me think......
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[defblade]

If I did fit them, I would use the "flicker" units.

A flickering light attracts the human eye much better than a steady one - I tend to wobble the bike a bit when approaching someone waiting at a junction so the light moves side-to-side which is much more noticable than just gettign closer on the same line (they still have to be looking tho!)
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[Bendy]

[Ariel Badger]

Twin lights close together register as a car in the distance rather than a bike near up to the eyes of a lot of drivers.
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[Im-a-Ridah]

Its not really legal, but coloured LEDs forming shapes on the front of the bike will make you stand out. Its not so much about the intensity of the light, but the area, since you are trying to make yourself visible, not illuminate things! Try to stick with something symmetrical, like a triangle or similar, and don't make it difficult to figure out as it will slow the other drivers reaction time.

[Fluke]

Hi all

This is Dan from BikeVis, I don't usually wade in on forums but some interesting ideas / points being raised here thought I'd post some of my thoughts.

Many of you are right in that there are no magic cures to the lack of visibility on our bikes, but what is generally agreed with is if you add protection (visibility) in a 'layered' approach you can improve your chances of being seen.

I set up BikeVis to try and help with products or ideas that I thought would help... and they can make a difference, some of them to a lesser extent but built up in 'layers' they can all help.

On my ZX10 I have a 55watt HID flanked by two off center 290 lumen run lights, these cure the problem mentioned by someone else of a single light not giving a indication of distance (and create a three point shape). Maybe it looks abit silly... but since fitting them I've not been pulled out on once. Also run a brake modulator to help prevent being pushed out into busy roundabouts by numptys playing with mobiles

I think over the years I've come to conclusion that if you can make your bike look different, and if it makes other road users double take (without dazzling), then it's a very good thing.

https://www.bikevis.com/images/cree-led-running-lights-3.jpg

As someone said about pricing, well I keep them as low as I can, and I would encourage anyone with electrical knowledge to source and make their own solutions. It's cheaper for sure


Again, sorry for barging in, I in no way want to sell anything here.. just thought I'd post my thoughts.

Keep the shiny side up with winter here, and if you do have problems with all this supposed snow on way, build a snowman on ya bike (but dont do what I did and take a fast run up at a hump back bridge doh)

https://www.bikevis.com/images/snow/SNC00052.jpg

https://www.bikevis.com/images/snow/SNC00048.jpg

[Vin]

[Frost]

Just remember to be careful with your colours if you attempt something like this. White only at the front, red only at the back and sides, blue absolutely NOWHERE.
Twin lamps have the old "Is it a bike up close or a car far away?" problem.
I find that people don't look closely and are just looking for something car sized anyway. A nice loud exhaust helps but can make you a bit of a dick.
Generally i just ride like i'm wearing a harry potter invisibility cloak.

Odd idea, but what about forward facing wide angle lights at the rear of the bike. Then when seen from an angle the gap between the rear light on that side and the headlight will be large making you look more like a car. Obligatory paint diagram:

https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/lights.jpg

[G]

I never actually wired them in, but I did put some more LED strips on the panniers of my KTM - with white (and white reflective stuff) at the front on the outside edge and red on the back.
While I wasn't trying to emulate a car (there lays some confusion I expect), I was trying to give people an idea I was rather wider than standard bikes - especially when I was filtering etc.

[Rogerborg]

Hi Dan, thanks for weighing in.

We've all got to make our own decisions, but I tend towards thinking that the big risk is a vehicle pulling out in front, not one missing an indicator.

I run an extra LED brake light, but hadn't thought about fitting a modulator - I usually "modulate" manually by dabbing the brakes to wake up the following traffic.

G's idea about a strip light seems sensible too. Might give that a try as the winter deepens and we become more invisible.

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[colin1]

[G]

It makes your brake light pulse brighter and darker.
You can get them for headlights too, but I think that's definitely asking for trouble.

On that, another against headlights used all the time - bikes with a shorter wheel base and longer suspension travel tend to bounce about more. With headlights on, this can easily be interpreted as 'flashing', which is universally recognised as "you can go now".

[Bru]

This is all good, but nothing undoes all these efforts more than road positioning. Last night, in fact, I was waiting for an oncoming car to pass by so that I could turn into a side road. As it's dark, I am aware of the stream of cars as (superficially) a succession of lights. There was a decent gap coming up, so I prepared to turn in behind the next passing car, but then did a double-take: a motorcyclist was riding about a car-length behind the car! I never saw/noticed him earlier, as his headlight was obscured by the car in front. Could have been a SMIDSY, and I would have been at fault.

[Rogerborg]