Korea Standoff

[Xdwardo500]

It appears Kim Jung-Il is trying to add one final bullet point on his resume...

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/9218848.stm
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[yuri2085]

Who here doesn't believe kim jong is insane enough to use nukes?

[N cee thirty]

probs trying to pull in other countries


shit is going down
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[Paxovasa]

Seems that South Korea was test firing artillary into the ocean and North Korea took that as a hostile act.

Although both claim rights to the island in question
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[mistergixer]

It's nothing new really, been going on for years.
Spy subs dropping commandos off with a mission to get to the Blue House (curfew for everyone), massive tunnels under the border for a tank invasion of Seoul, propaganda blaring out over massive speakers across the border, one-upmanship over flags etc

Shame really, as they are a nation/race seperated by the lunacy of politics.
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[Paxovasa]

In case of a nuclear attack, remember to wrap yourself in tin foil and

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[Hywel]

I'm off to Seoul in January, and if Kim bombs me I'm gonna kick right off.

[Paulington]

I believe everyone is friends with S. Korea, N. Korea is the problem.

If N.Korea is stupid enough to launch a nuke trained on S. Korea, I guarantee most of N. Korea will be desolate from fallout before the nuke even reaches S. Korea, if it does.
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[colin1]

I'm a great believer in chance and fuck ups over grand design.

South Korea were doing a bit of war games, and North Korea got a bit jumpy and fired a few rounds, and before you know it, there's an arillery duel which if they arent careful could lead to WWIII.

I very much doubt it would come to that, but if I were Kim Jung-Il I'd probably be just as jumpy about having well developed South Korea as a neighbour. Maybe a poor country spending all its money on subs and nukes is just trying to look hard, but that might be because they have a valid fear of being invaded.

In terms of human life, maybe it would be better to not attempt to defend yourself against overwelming forces that will get you one day, as it will just result in more deaths, but it might put off overwelming forces that dont want to get hurt.
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[Frost]

I recommend that everyone reads this, i think it's a pretty typical indication of what dealing with the north koreans is like:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axe_murder_incident

I like this bit:

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[Frost]

All the sources i've seen have said that the work was previously mutually agreed. The North decided at the last minute that the trees had been planted by the dear leader and were not to be touched. I think it was just the north taking advantage of a grey area to be the one to call the shots, or as an excuse for violence. If you read the norths statements on the recant attacks they blame the south for starting things and claim to be defending themselves against aggressors:

The South Korean enemy, despite our repeated warnings, committed reckless military provocations of firing artillery shells into our maritime territory near Yeonpyeong island beginning 1300 (0400 GMT), The North will strike back if South Korea "dares to invade our sea territory by 0.001mm", it warned.

Mostly it's just chest beating on behalf of the north, but i think in the axe murder incident they went as far as they possibly could and backed down short of all out war as they secretly know it's unwinnable for them.
The main thing protecting DPRK was China, but recently US - china have agreed more and more than the north is acting unacceptably. China would never accept a US occupation of the north, neither would the US after Iraq and Afghanistan, similarly i don't think the chinese would want to get involved. However if the north used nuclear weapons on the south i would expect to see a massive non nuclear strike against the north by the americans, one china would probably accept.

[Charlie]

Interesting documentary into North Korea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG4gL3eAHVs

I watched it on the VBS.tv website a year or so ago. But I can't get all the parts to play on their website anymore. So had to youtube it for the first one. Tis interesting.
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[SirEdward]

Neither of the Koreas are independent in their actions - it's a US-China duet.

Nuclear fires do not discriminate and have no concepts of national borders...
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[Frost]

Sarah Palin (potential next president) ‘Obviously, we have got to stand with our North Korean allies.’

[Skudd]

Have they got Oil/

If not then I don't care.
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[Frost]

I dunno, i think i'd definitely avoid saying something like that
Like i said she's a candidate to be the next president and seems to have a way with words similar to the last one, so her odds are probably good

[Ed Case]

I just hope that the 'Yanks' aren't daft enough to vote Sarah Palin in, but I have my doubts.