Student Protests...

[smegballs]

Currently joined the resistance at Plymouth uni, we're occupying a nice big room and its pretty fun...

Apart from all the normal protesty stuff, I feel like there's valuable skills to be learnt from protesting...

For instance getting a group of 20-30 people to all sit down and agree on issues, then act on them... If nothing else it's getting a good education in negotiation, especially as our organisation is very loose with no leaders...

Personally I don't think this protest will reduce cuts as such (although that isn't really in our demands), but as the chance arose I thought I'd get involved in some govt fighting, rather than just run my mouth on here...

Whereas most people are complaining at sleeping on the floor with loads of people etc, I love it! Beats sleeping in a cold garage and the whole atmosphere with lots of people and activity is awesome. We're also hosting debates and film showings (I got Money as Debt in there ) and generally making good use of our time and our occupied space.

Any other stories of rebel fun?

[Paulington]

Friends walked around Bristol, some signs saying "First Dobby, now this!".

Seems a bit fruitless to me, I am with Itchy in the way that unless some people grab some RPGs and Kalashnikovs, I can't see much changing.
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[Ariel Badger]

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[Frost]

Fee's go up 300%, only those effected protest. That's normal, however because they are all young people their either branded as clueless, lazy, complaining for the sake of it, no knowledge of the real world etc. If they get violent they get dismissed as yobs and the news coverage becomes about violent yobs, rather than the actual opposition to the issue.

Think about this, if VAT / Income tax / Council tax were going up 300% the streets would be littered with burning cars and dead policemen, and peoples reaction would just be "well what do you expect if you do something THAT unpopular?!".

[The Shaggy D.A.]

[warped one]

I was watching this on the news last night.

What I couldn't understand was why there was a couple of 14y.o girls in the march.

It does really effect them, does it?
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[Mister James]

[Mister James]

[Tristan.]

Please can you remove the batteries from that bitches loudspeaker please, her shouting infiltrates SMB105 and why is there a gay pride flag in there?

Also where are you cleaning yourselves

[Im-a-Ridah]

I'm surprised the protest is in Smeaton, I'd be expecting it more to be in the art block

Also, if you want to occupy a big space in Smeaton, why not the project lab on the top floor?

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[Mister James]

[Tristan.]

[The Original Muzza]

[syl]

Fees go up and students protest about paying back their own fees (now or, more likely, later). They would rather the taxpayer pay the fees. Unfortunately, so may people go to university these days that it is no longer a meritocracy for the truly intellectual - it costs a fortune and it's a waste of time for many. Despite that, most people who go to university will probably end up as taxpayers rather than live on benefits, and those that do good degrees have a higher chance of a larger income and will therefore pay more tax. Remind me who the students want to pay the fees again?

The options are:

1) You pay your own fees
2) You pay everybody elses fees

Nothing is ever free.

(1) is a good idea if you are a traditional student, you will save money
(2) is good for those doing Lady GaGa studies, having a laugh for 3 years, and not expecting to make anything of it
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[Itchy]

[Frost]

[G]

So far I haven't seen any of these (and other similar) protesters actually offering any kind of solution.

Some don't really acknowledge there's a 'problem' with the economy that is causing the problem. Others seem to think the MPs, who get the wage of maybe someone running a company with 10-50 employees, should somehow pay for it all themselves. Ignoring these for the totally stupidity they display...
I don't see anyone saying "put taxes up even more than they are going to be put up", "cut even more public sector jobs" or "cut winter fuel allowance".

From what I understand - the fact that over the last thirty years a lot more people have been attending university and having a lot of it paid for by the state is no doubt a contributing factor to why our country is in the mess it is.
Just because others have had it free when times were good, does not mean, to my mind, that people now should be able to continue that.

And no, I didn't go to Uni, but did manage still to get a job a Uni-lever would have and progress similarly (or better than quite a lot I know) at a similar age. Can the state pay for me to doss for a few years now?

As per Mister James - I don't know how much is in place, but it would be nice to see courses funded more for areas we need - perhaps paid on graduation or even when a job is held for a while (so they didn't disappear off to somewhere more lucrative). There was a scheme like that running for teachers, not sure if it still is.

As for paying taxes - that's fine if you don't use any other public services at all and totally rescind your rights to anything the framework may offer (emegency ambulances, etc.)

[Chalky.]

Either way it's only the geeky and loser students who aren't playing sport/getting drunk on a Wednesday afternoon... the day that the protest in London was.

[mistergixer]

Students, a brief guide - by Mistergixer.

What they look like:

https://www.davidosler.com/eton-boys.jpg

How they view themselves:

https://www.havana-guide.com/images/CheGuevarawithCigar.jpg

How normal people view them:

https://debikm.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/waah.jpg
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[Skudd]

Why do these people want a degree?
To earn money.

Why did I learn to drive a car?
To be able to go to a job to earn money.

Why did I pay for the extra courses i have been on over the years?
To earn money.

So why do the want a degree for free or at a cut down price?

Because they are money grabbing skanks.

If you want it either pay for it or pay for it. Nothing is free and why should I pay for a service that I do not receive, with others getting that service in order to either get paid more than me or even put me out of a job?
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[MarJay]

I am paying back my student loans still and I am 30. Ok this is probably not ideal.

However, does it affect my day to day life? No. Does it cause me hardship? Not really. I didn't get a degree but I am in a professional job that could have been obtained with a degree and relevant experience.

Education has to be paid for somehow, and yes how many people do sports science or social policy or carpet design?

Its all very well saying that if tax was increased we'd all be protesting; Tax is being increased, but we aren't. Its not being increased 300% but at the same time we're not getting more favourable payment terms.

The previous government fucked us over by spending over the overdraft limit of the country (including the extraordinarily expensive scrappage scheme for example) and so we need to pay for stuff now.

Nobody protested when the original tuition fees policy was announced...? Maybe because the unions were in the pocket of Zanulabour at the time...? Who knows. What I do know is, the change in policy isn't serious enough to instigate a riot.
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